[Woolie Wool]

Supspace? Theoreticly it like wormhoels...not impossible..

Where does the exotic matter scaffolding required to keep open the wormhole not there? Why isn't the end you go through to enter subspace a black hole? The fact that it's glowing means that stuff is coming OUT of it.

Banking in space? With multiple thrusters and a powerfull nav computer it's possible for a space fighter to behave like that.

Such a method of maneuvering would make your fighter less effective that the flight style seen on Babylon 5 before they started wanking off to "gravimetric" propulsion.

Humanoid vasudans? Also not impossible.

So incredibly unlikely that it's ridiculous to even consider.

Subach changing colors? Maby it's coolin in space or dissolving..also possible.

Radiation doesn't "cool"--the light will diffuse over long ranges, but a laser will keep its original wavelength. Like it or not, FreeSpace is constructed with extreme scientific ignorance, and it's pathetic sensor system is among the worst offenders. You just can't do stealth in space. Furthermore, the Subach is an X-ray laser, so it should be invisible!

I think the FS / SW lasers can be explained as a contained / and/or charged laser blast.  I know it is possible to contain or "stop" a laser, they have done it.  Whether or not it is possible to contain a pent-up amount of laser energy inside of soem sort of plasma and shoot it is another matter.  I think firing the plasma would be easy enough, but eventually the plasma would not contain the laser... hence the "laser's" max range, which would be based on the strength of the plasma field containing it.

Your explanation doesn't make any sense. Lasers are "stopped" either by mirrors, which reflect them, or strong materials that absorb them completely. You can't freeze electromagnetic radiation. The plasma doesn't work either, because plasma is extremely volatile. Plasma molecules desperately want to get away from other plasma molecules, so firing plasma is like firing a blast of steam at an opponent--completely useless, as it instantly diffuses. You might as well say the thing is constructed out of pure technobabble.

[Gamma_Draconis]

Likewise, there is no sound in space either. But I bet you the game wouldn't be very fun if you were shooting invisible Xasers and no sound except for the background music.

[Hades]

Also Fire cannot exist in space because there is no oxygen.

[akenbosch]

why have a realistic game when you can have a cool one?

[Woolie Wool]

I wasn't arguing that FreeSpace sucked because its physics don't work, I am arguing that it's physics don't work. The quality of the game has no bearing on the fact that the idea of stealth ships and color changing X-ray blob guns contradict the way things actually are.

The GTF Pegasus is cool, even if you are Rockeye fodder in one. The problem is that in real life, stealth fighters don't work in space.

[akenbosch]

they do if you use the "stealth" flag on a SCP build

[Snail]

The problem is that in real life, stealth fighters don't work in space.

And sound doesn't travel in space.

Stop trying to compare FS phenomena to real-life.

[Woolie Wool]

The problem is that in real life, stealth fighters don't work in space.

And sound doesn't travel in space.

Stop trying to compare FS phenomena to real-life.

Concession accepted.

[TrashMan]

Where does the exotic matter scaffolding required to keep open the wormhole not there? Why isn't the end you go through to enter subspace a black hole? The fact that it's glowing means that stuff is coming OUT of it.

The wormhoels/subspace/hyperspace and all that shizt are all theorethical construct, not yet proven..and something that the top scientistsare debating about..
so unless you're one of hte greatest minds on Earth, I wouldn't go into arguments regarding their inner workings or "belivability"

So incredibly unlikely that it's ridiculous to even consider.

Actually it's impossible to calculate. It *could* be that the humanoid shape is an optimal shape and that practicly ALL alien races would be humanoid... There's no way to tell

[Turey]

So incredibly unlikely that it's ridiculous to even consider.

Actually it's impossible to calculate. It *could* be that the humanoid shape is an optimal shape and that practicly ALL alien races would be humanoid... There's no way to tell

More likely, it's not the humanoid shape that's optimal, but bilateral symmetry. After all, 90% of all multi-celled life on earth has bilateral symmetry.

[Bob-san]

We are a product of our environment.

Might I bring up another inaccuracy? Your eyes can't see colors in space without aide--generally in a brightened cockpit (which could be distracting) or mechanical aide.

Anyways--If I remember correctly, one of our weapons requires an igniter of gases in order to work--something about a 1/10 of a millisecond or something... I don't remember which one or the other details, but I'm about 95% sure that it's mentioned in-game or by .

[akenbosch]

the prometheus. and the maxim accelarates uranium shells.

[Agent_Koopa]

Might I bring up another inaccuracy? Your eyes can't see colors in space without aide--generally in a brightened cockpit (which could be distracting) or mechanical aide.

Really? Where have you heard that?

[Bob-san]

Might I bring up another inaccuracy? Your eyes can't see colors in space without aide--generally in a brightened cockpit (which could be distracting) or mechanical aide.

Really? Where have you heard that?

You can't see colors in space because your cones (color) are inactive in low-light conditions. Instead, your rods (b,w,&g-s) are making the images in your eyes--they're responsible primarily during low-light conditions.

Next off--I removed "Prometheus" from my post quoted by you because I was unsure--someone else might know for sure.

the prometheus. and the maxim accelarates uranium shells.

+1

Didn't the Subach receive a bit of a technical-workings overview too? I know it is considered Xaser, though I think the GTVA would be stupid not to pigment a weapon--it makes it easier to dodge but that's both positive and negative. As general-use, for and against the NTF at least, it would be necessary to pigment it so your own fighters can dodge enemy and friendly fire.

[Snail]

I know it is considered Xaser, though I think the GTVA would be stupid not to pigment a weapon--it makes it easier to dodge but that's both positive and negative.

Like tracer fire.

[TrashMan]

You can't see colors in space because your cones (color) are inactive in low-light conditions. Instead, your rods (b,w,&g-s) are making the images in your eyes--they're responsible primarily during low-light conditions.

Helooo? Cones are part of the eyes. And there's enough light in space to see...what are you talking about?

[Bob-san]

You can't see colors in space because your cones (color) are inactive in low-light conditions. Instead, your rods (b,w,&g-s) are making the images in your eyes--they're responsible primarily during low-light conditions.

Helooo? Cones are part of the eyes. And there's enough light in space to see...what are you talking about?

It's all about cones and rods... if I remember human optics correctly, your cones deactivate in low-light conditions. Let me put it this way--unless there is a planet, major ship close to you, or a lot of light from other sources, you cannot see the color involved in the scene. You need lengthened exposure to the darkness (an hour) to see the colors clearly.

Do this tonight--in an interior room of your place of living, turn off all lights in said room and turn on the TV in a connecting room. All light from under the door will appear to be white--regardless if the light is actually blue, green, red, &c.

EDIT: I mean to see colors--you can only see in gray-scale in low-light conditions.

EDIT 2:

The retina contains two forms of photosensitive cells important to vision—rods and cones. Though structurally and metabolically similar, their function is quite different. Rod cells are highly sensitive to light allowing them to respond in dim light and dark conditions, however, they cannot detect color. These are the cells which allow humans and other animals to see by moonlight, or with very little available light (as in a dark room). This is why the darker conditions become, the less color objects seem to have. Cone cells, conversely, need high light intensities to respond and have high visual acuity. Different cone cells respond to different wavelengths of light, which allows an organism to see color.

[TrashMan]

Yeah, I know that...but you seem to imply there's not much light in space...

What is there to block the Sun praytell????

[jr2]

Depends if you're on the other side of a planet or not.  But IIRC, if you look at the sun without specially shielded lenses / facemasks, you will have your eyes damaged.

[akenbosch]

[yoda]sunshielded cockpits, freespace is lacking. hmmmMMMMmmm.[/yoda]