[Gamma_Draconis]

I remember on one of the missions during the Neo Terran Front campaign where Command said they landed 250,000 ground troops on this 1 planet. How is that possible? I mean, how many Argo Transports do you need to carry such a large army? Are there even bigger space to land transports that Volition never included in the game itself? Even a Destroyer can only carry about 10,000 Crewmen. So how did they move such a vast army? Hundreds or even thousands of Elysiums Transports?

[Polpolion]

They probably have landing crafts.

[TrashMan]

Even a Destroyer can only carry about 10,000 Crewmen.

Thats it's STANDARD CREW COMPLEMENT. A batallion of marines ferried over for invasion wouldn't count in it.

[Gamma_Draconis]

Still, how can they land 250,000 ground troops effectively? I doubt Destroyers can land on a planet. I am fairly certain they use some sort of modified Elysium Transport for this. I wonder if they have any armored vehicles along with ground infantry.

[Flipside]

They must have some kind of ground-support vehicles, certainly, I don't see human warfare changing enough in the next few 100 years to the point where we prefer risking our necks to shelling at range.

[Locutus of Borg]

They pack 'em in tight.

[Gamma_Draconis]

Armed Infantry take up more space then simply Crewmen. So I'm assuming they can't fit more then 100 fully armed men into a single Elysium Transport. But there are 250,000 soldiers so would that equal 2,500 Transports... I still think they have some sort of large transport ship, maybe a Kilometer long ship. But it wouldn't make sense why those ships were never deployed in the front lines as a refugee transport.

[haloboy100]

I remember on one of the missions during the Neo Terran Front campaign where Command said they landed 250,000 ground troops on this 1 planet.

250,000 troops? i thought it was 600,000...

We are talking about the first mission, right?

[Game_Master64]

transporters? nah. probably a large number of landing craft

[Bob-san]

Probably a number of corvette-sized transports... I doubt they'll actually land, but more likely that they have numerous transport docks. A small group (5?) of the large transports can probably carry about 100,000 soldiers. Remember how much "used space" is involved in dedicated warships... so much space for weapons, armor, and supplies. A large transport could carry a barebone compliment of weaponry, poorly armored, and supplied for short treks to nearby systems. I don't see 2,500 Elysium transports that big of a deal--the US Navy's actual sea-going crew is much less then the US Army's land-going crew. Remember that we (the US) put half a million soldiers into Iraq alone--not to mention the number in Afghanistan.

[Excalibur]

If you think about the ships' size, how many people could you cram into 100m of Argo or 300m of cruiser?

Probably 1000's at least

[Stormkeeper]

We should have a campaign where Alpha 1 is a atmospheric pilot instead of spacefighter, then he provides cover for the PBI.

[Mars]

A cruiser could definitely house maybe 2,000 people, prolly more.

[Gamma_Draconis]

Ok, lets assume an Argo Transport can hold up to 2,500 fully armed soldiers along with their heavy weapons and armored vehicles. That's still 100 transports. But according to haloboy100, it was 600,000 soldiers.... So that makes it, 240 Argo Transports but yet you hardly ever see more then 2-3 Transports. It might be an engine limitation, but exactly how many Argo transports can the GTVA field?

Regarding to the atmospheric fighter idea, that would be pretty cool. I'd like to fly a new set of fighters. It'll be neat dodging anti-aircraft fire while dropping some missiles on a tank hampering troop progress. (That is if they use tanks anymore) But I think it would require a completely different engine. The FS2 engine does not support any gravity or actual land that you can crash on.

[Wanderer]

Why not take something like stripped Orion - or who does even say there couldnt be ships even larger than the Orions... All heavy weapons and fighter bays and fighters swapped for dozen or so landing crafts and loads of troops (if possible in cryogenic freeze). Just rip them from freezers toss into the landing craft and off they go..

The FS2 engine does not support any gravity or actual land that you can crash on.

We shall see...

[Stormkeeper]

There fore, let us all pay attention to Wanderer, for he may yet do it for us! And such that his victory will pave the way for campaigns and mods of such renown, that the world will forever know that it was Wanderer who stood against does who did not believe, and against great opposition did he craft a tool so powerful, that worlds tremble at its mention.

[TrashMan]

Thou sure hast a way with words, Sir

[Kie99]

THey probably just use ships we haven't seen in game.

[Colonol Dekker]

One ground pounder packed into a MLT, Manned Landing Torpedo (think Quake 2 intro) would work fine

[Game_Master64]

perhaps drop pods? (i think that's what dekker is talking about), kind of like the thing the covenant do in halo, just drop them from orbit