[redsniper]

Alright, I'm not asking for any links since it's against forum policy, I just want a "yes" or a "no".
Has this been fansubbed yet?

[TrashMan]

so, they are going to try and give this show ANOTHER ending?
what is that like the sixth time they've gone, 'ok, no... eh... actualy it was like THIS!' /*insert freidian collage here*/

weren't there like riots when they showed the first ending? they should have left well enough alone.

I've yet to see an ending of Evangelion that doesn't suck. IMHO, it would have been better if they left it without ending at all than to make that abortion of sanity.
It was a fun show, some good fight, some good laughs tough. But I still think it's overrated.


Now back to buissnes...wasn't thins a old thread? And.. I havn't got a clue. There's a few EVA fans on this forum, they might know.

[redsniper]

* redsniper facepalms

[Ghostavo]

Alright, I'm not asking for any links since it's against forum policy, I just want a "yes" or a "no".
Has this been fansubbed yet?

No.

[DarkBasilisk]

US Release date February 22!

For great justice!

[TrashMan]

Release all ZIG?

[Sarafan]

The real substance of the series, UT, was about Shinji's existential climb out of self hatred and self denial. Both Anno (ze writer/director) and Sartre (who just oozes over the second half of the series, especially episode 16 and the ending) were inclined to theatrics, and Shinji isn't any worse then the characters found in No Exit. If you had stuck with it you would have seen his character criticized in detail; he tries to deny his freedom to make choices by calling himself a coward and rendering himself helpless, so others have to choose for him, because he's terrified of being responsable for his actions; a walking example of bad faith. And his character does go somewhere. Admittedly it's not until the ending (when Anno finally does the right thing and throws out the nonsensical main plot) that these issues are fully presented, and then, then you see Shinji beginning to shift and change and learn. If you're not into existentialism or whatnot, then fine, but the series is about much more then "Shinji is an emo wuss".

The biggest question I have after seeing this trailer though, is are they going to make the plot make sense? And would be a good or bad thing? If it is better, then it might just draw attention away from the elements I just discussed above.

 

Wow, some one who actually gave some thought to the show and went beyond the "Shinji is an emo wuss" comment, that is rare.

[Flaser]

I'm an old fan (saw it back in 'teh golden age of fansubs' in '97).

Yes, Shinji can be petty pathetic; and very hard to put up with...
...but I think he's still better than 99% of the action/comic/super heroes out there.

He's just a kid, who has his balls kicked all the time.

WARNING - SPOILERS - WARNING

1. Hey, maybe I can gain my father's love this way! - Gendo doesn't (...is too afraid to?) give ****. Bugger.
2. Hey, I'm living with a beautiful chick! Misato is an alcoholic still obsessed with a father complex + disgusted over her infatuation with her boyfriend. On top of this, she's a slob, and can't stop joking/lolling for a moment. Bugger.
3. Hey, my fellow pilot is a very shapely chick! She has the personality of a slab of brick, with the sensitivity to boot. Later on when I finally make a connection I find out, that she's some weird clone of my mother and can be replaced with another clone any time. Bugger.
4. Hey, I live with another cute chick! Only, she's an egomaniac, and can't stop belittling and taunting me. Our romance consisted of her frenching me while holding my nose. Sex was me jerking off on her comatose body. Bugger.
5. Hey, I had a nice mother, she must have loved me! She did, and as good mother was willingly absorbes into a biomechanical monstrosity, so when I'm inside it and getting my guts meta-physically (which hurts all the same!!) ripped out, she can go ape**** crazzy and go berserk and give me enough live-horror-show experience (with dripping blood, guts and 'al) to last me a lifetime. Bugger.
6. Hey, I've found my purpose. I can protect mankind! No, as it turns out I only do this to seek the attention and approval of others. I can't do **** right. Oh, and I've just gone to 'la-la land to find this out. (Ep 13) Bugger.
7. Hey! ....repeatedly! This time, I was in there for a whole month. Go me. (Ep 14-15) Bugger.
8. Hey! I've just found a guy who really understands me, and can connect with (am I gay?). What?! He's an angel! ...and HE asks me to kill him?!? Bugger!

[Mefustae]

**** watching a fansub of Rebuild, i'll just wait for the excellent-as-usual dub to come out. No way am I going to try downloading another one after the hackjob Fullmetal Alchemist movie fansub.

[jr2]

Umm, if you read the Wikipedia article, it states that the director suffered from clinical depression himself, which he recovered from before writing this. 

Hideaki Anno, the director of the anime series, had suffered from clinical depression prior to creating the series, and the psychological aspects of the show are based on the director's own experiences with overcoming this illness

Alright, I'm not asking for any links since it's against forum policy, I just want a "yes" or a "no".
Has this been fansubbed yet?

Oh my word....

[Mefustae]

Thanks so much for that valued addition to the thread.

Tool.

[jr2]

Same... except, perhaps, we could replace the t with an f ? 

If you wanna get nasty, take it to PMs.  At least then I can add you to the ignore list.

[Flaser]

**** watching a fansub of Rebuild, i'll just wait for the excellent-as-usual dub to come out. No way am I going to try downloading another one after the hackjob Fullmetal Alchemist movie fansub.

You know that most of the time dubs tend to be even worse, right?

Back on topic: it hasn't been fansubbed yet, but I saw the RAW; and it looks promising. The direction is a lot more faced-paced and dead-on-target. If they can keep this up and introduce smg. new as they promise to do so - and finally give it an ending that can incorporate the message into a coherent storyline - then I think it would finally restore (or achieve) the glory the story should have taken in the first place.

[Mefustae]

You know that most of the time dubs tend to be even worse, right?

Oh, there's no doubt about that. However, considering the likelihood that they'll get most if not all of the English cast back for the Rebuild, this one should be good. Evangelion was one of those rare cases where the dub fits almost perfectly, and while I do agree that subs (proper subs) are the better option 90% of the time, I prefer the nostalgic feeling i'll get from watching it in English like I did oh-so-many years ago.

Totally agree on the hope for a little more coherency in ending this time. I'm all for post-modernism and interpretive writing, but the last 20 minutes or so of End of Evangelion was just plain wacky. Hey, that gives me an idea: Maybe this time round we'll find out what Gendo actually said.

[TrashMan]

What did you expect? This was made by a man with a psychotic breakdown.

Sense? Meaning? I can find more of that in that rotten cucumber over there!

[Unknown Target]

Recieved some complaints about this thread...not sure why anyone would necro it, but it's up and people seem to be discussing things. Just no flames, or it will be locked.

[redsniper]

It's my own thread and I bumped it with a question still pertinent to the original topic. It's not necroed because it never died; it just went to sleep when the movie came out and now I'm waking it up to continue the discussion.

[Flaser]

What did you expect? This was made by a man with a psychotic breakdown.

Sense? Meaning? I can find more of that in that rotten cucumber over there!

  You're a very 'sensitive' and 'emphatic' Trashman.

[pecenipicek]

The biggest question I have after seeing this trailer though, is are they going to make the plot make sense? And would be a good or bad thing? If it is better, then it might just draw attention away from the elements I just discussed above.

that would be a truly bad thing, since Evangelion was... well, pretty much the only thing i've ever actually seen and was... actually touched by it and changed by it. its one of those extremely rare pieces of fiction that make you draw your own conclusions and not force you into their own conclusions.

yes, its gloomy and yes, shinji is such a wuss that its even hard to look at him and not cringe or twitch, however, it makes you think. if you're willing to think about it all, but in that case i advise you to excersise caution and try not to think too much about it.

[TrashMan]

It's a bunch of psycho crap if you ask me.

I like books/movies that makes you think too (occasionally) but the questions I should be asking should not be of the "WTF was that all about" nature.

Evangelion wasn't even supposed to be about angels, demon, giant organic robots, alien attacks and superpowers - that was all added since no one would pay for it's original idea (the last episode)

If that's the only thing that ever made you think..I actually feel sorry for you.

I likes books/movies that turn out to be a emotional investment (you really start to love/hate the characters and when it's over you feel numb)