[Mobius]

Since I have a WIP campaign about the Hammer of Light(Malleus Splendens), I want to discuss about its fleet. The HoL, as far as I know, is a "behind the lines" rebellion, unlike the NTF. In Operation Templar GTA-PVE and HoL fight each other in multiple systems, so there's no "frontline". But what can the HoL rely on? It must have a very limited number of warships and fighters and only a few shipyards(like the one where the Thoth is produced), and grows up only thanks to continuous defections and the support of regular PVE forces who are planning to defect to the HoL or simply want to give their help.

I actually think that the HoL has:

2-4 Destroyers
10-20 Cruisers
300-700 Fighter/bomber wings
2-5 Space Installations

Less than the 50% of the NTF fleet, which is known to have about 10 destroyers.

What do you think? 

[colecampbell666]

I'd agree with that, give or take. Oh and, on a side note, where can I get the single-player version of Operation Templar?

[Mobius]

Oh and, on a side note, where can I get the single-player version of Operation Templar?

With FreeSpace 2...

[colecampbell666]

Where? It is not included as a campaign.

[Snail]

C'est une multiplayeur campaign.

Oh, and BTW, there are 5 Typhons, I forgot the HLD Tanis

[Roanoke]

C'est une multiplayeur campaign.

Oh, and BTW, there are 5 Typhons, I forgot the HLD Tanis

someone rewrote it to solo play

[Mobius]

Oh, and BTW, there are 5 Typhons, I forgot the HLD Tanis

Oh. That's INFA, so I should also consider some Bastet destroyers. This is going to rise the number of HoL destroyers...and double it...

[Snail]

The HLD Cherti is one.

[Mobius]

Well, at this point, the HoL would be a much stronger opponent...

[Snail]

Oh, don't forget the 4k._TeH.

[Mobius]

Oh, don't forget the 4k._TeH.

It was constructed by the HoL. A superdestroyer. At this point, the HoL is much better than the NTF...they could only come out with the Iceni... 

[Sarafan]

You're forgetting that on FS1 it was the HoL that took out the bulk of the PVN forces guarding Vasuda Prime, so its unlikely that they only had that, if they managed to take that out, they must've been stronger.

And IIRC on Operation Templar you're fighting only what remains of them.

[Mobius]

You're forgetting that on FS1 it was the HoL that took out the bulk of the PVN forces guarding Vasuda Prime, so its unlikely that they only had that, if they managed to take that out, they must've been stronger.

That's something I didn't take in consideration, thanks

And IIRC on Operation Templar you're fighting only what remains of them.

Yeah, four missions aren't enough to take out the HoL

[Snail]

There are probably like fifteen more HoL destroyers in multiplayer missions too, you know.

[colecampbell666]

Oh, don't forget the 4k._TeH.

It was constructed by the HoL. A superdestroyer. At this point, the HoL is much better than the NTF...they could only come out with the Iceni... 

They  came up with the Iceni because it was all that they needed to get to GD. Why waste time in building an SD when you don't really need it?

EDIT: And hwere can I get Operation Templar single player?

[Wobble73]

EDIT: And hwere can I get Operation Templar single player?

Here you go! 

[Mobius]

They  came up with the Iceni because it was all that they needed to get to GD. Why waste time in building an SD when you don't really need it?

You don't really need it? You don't need a superdestroyer? They can take out most ships in circulation...furthermore, the damage they can inflict to the Colossus would really disencourage any kind of direct confrontation...

[Snail]

The NTF had 18 months.

[Mobius]

They didn't know how much their rebellion would have lasted at the beginning. A superdestroyer was possible to build, Bosch definitely wanted something smaller...and wanted it ASAP.

[Snail]

I had a short campaign about the fall of Polaris at the end of the rebellion, where the GTVI secretly towed away a WIP NTF Hades class destroyer, the NTD Utopia.