[Mobius]

They jumped in several kilometers away by accident, and were pwned by the supercap. When the Shivans lost contact with the Ravana, they knew something was up and sent in the Sathanas to take care of whatever it was and stop it bothering their cruisers.

You can't be sure. What do we know about the number of Shivan destroyers in Capella? The Nebiros wasn't alone.

And the Beast was too far from the node. It couldn't be coming from Gamma Draconis. The Psamtik had problems because there was a Sathanas arriving. The Sathanas that destroyed the Colossus was Sathanas 17, so it was part of the main Juggernaut fleet. Except for the cruisers, all Shivan warships in Their Finest Hour were sortied from Capella.

[Agent_Koopa]

They jumped in several kilometers away by accident, and were pwned by the supercap. When the Shivans lost contact with the Ravana, they knew something was up and sent in the Sathanas to take care of whatever it was and stop it bothering their cruisers.

You can't be sure. What do we know about the number of Shivan destroyers in Capella? The Nebiros wasn't alone.

And the Beast was too far from the node. It couldn't be coming from Gamma Draconis. The Psamtik had problems because there was a Sathanas arriving. The Sathanas that destroyed the Colossus was Sathanas 17, so it was part of the main Juggernaut fleet. Except for the cruisers, all Shivan warships in Their Finest Hour were sortied from Capella.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, but that's what I was saying. The Beast was sent in by the Shivans to kill whatever was blowing up cruisers. They jumped away from the fleet to take care of the situation, and arrived too far away.  There's no other explanation for why a Ravana would try to attack the Colossus,  besides perhaps that Sathanas number 1 was unable to report the Colossus before it was destroyed.

[TrashMan]

Shivans don't seem to have a problem with dying..or sending hordes of bombers/fighters  on a well defended convoy to die.

By that logic, sending scores of lesser ships after the Colossus doesn't sound out of charachter for them.

[Polpolion]

Yes like the Admiral of the Colossus.

IIRC he was either captain or commander.

And cole, seeing as how he was made the CO of the largest terran vasuden craft ever, it's safe to say that he was a lot smarter than you. If you deny it, go and take up a carrier command.

Ok. He was a retard with high IQ^{TM 2007 Snail Inc.}

You have absolutely no basis for calling him retarded. Where in Freespace 2 does he exhibit himself to have an IQ of less than 70? In fact (not that I would), people would have more of a reason to call you retarded. No offense intended, just trying to prove a point. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

[Agent_Koopa]

Shivans don't seem to have a problem with dying..or sending hordes of bombers/fighters  on a well defended convoy to die.

By that logic, sending scores of lesser ships after the Colossus doesn't sound out of charachter for them.

But they didn't, you see. They sent a Ravana and a Sathanas, and the Sathanas only because the Ravana didn't work. The entire supernova sequence was out-of-character for the Shivans.

[Mobius]

A Ravana-class destroyer has emerged from subspace. They're putting the pressure on us now!

What does it tell you?

[Jake2447]

If the Colossus had been escorting that Bastion, the Ravana would have jumped in to attack the Colossus.  When it was destroyed, by your logic, the Sathanas would have jumped in to put an end to the Colossal annoyance, and would have killed the bastion as well.

[Agent_Koopa]

A Ravana-class destroyer has emerged from subspace. They're putting the pressure on us now!

What does it tell you?

The Ravana was not sent to attack the Colossus specifically, it was sent to defend the node. The captain/commander/admiral/comms officer of the Colossus was stating that they were annoying the Shivans enough for them to send a Ravana after them. That or he was mistaken. The provocation was not the appearance of the Colossus; the Shivans would have been too concerned with whatever they were doing to go "Yay, Colossus! This is our big chance to take it down!" The provocation was the destruction of three cruisers, three transports, and several wings of fighters.

[AlphaOne]

well from what i can remember i took out a lot more then 3 cruisers a hand full of transports and a couple of wing of fighters and bommbers. The point is they just sent in what they believed in thery twisted minds to be a threat to the Collie! The only problem was the collie could of handeleld itself agains several ravana class destroyers. And it is clear to me now that they had no idea. Which by all means tells me that sath no1 did not have a chance to repiort back to the shivans about the Collie.

Also I'm prety sure they were tryng to force the GTVA out of the sisyems and perhaps have a small task force consisting of at least on destroyer in the GTVA controlled space beyond capella!

By the way they were hammering at the escaping fleet from capella they were more then just concentrating on blowing the star up!

I mean when you want to do something like this you just get on with your work you dont go off hunting for convois !

[TrashMan]

They lost far more fighters and bombers attacking the Bastion than in "their finest Hour". I stil lsaw no Ravana or Sathanas pop up to get rid of that annoyance. Granted, no capships were destryed there.

I still don't really think the Collies apperance alone would be enough to send a sath. I mean they had 80 if em? Collie isn't a big threat at all...

[Mobius]

They were about to make Capella go Supernova, who cares about the Colossus?

It wasn't a normal environment. The Juggernauts were busy.

[AlphaOne]

and that is why we are saing they must of had some other reason for sending that sath and the collie telling it has to stay!

[Polpolion]

I still don't really think the Collies apperance alone would be enough to send a sath. I mean they had 80 if em? Collie isn't a big threat at all...

The collie took out a Ravana when it had 60% hull integrity. But you're right. No threat at all. I mean, an unarmed civilian freighter could do more damage!


Oh, and actually it's possible the Shivans might have lost more fighters/bombers in Finest Hour. They lost an entire Ravana and all her compliment. Even the ones that were not aboard don't have a base anymore, and all the other shivan ships are probably operating at full capacity without room enough for them. By the time they did know where to go, they'd be destroyed.

[Snail]

And the amount of fighters matters?

[TrashMan]

With the shivan fighter losses I figure there would be many vacancies on theri destroyer

[Polpolion]

And the amount of fighters matters?

I was responding to what trashman said. I didn't really read a lot of the thread.

[Roanoke]

Hmn. I wonder why the Shivans were commiting forces to a system they were bent on super-nova-ing ?

[Mobius]

Simple, they needed some fast assistance units. They also wanted to destroy some assets. The 3rd Fleet Headquarters falls under the attack of the Nebiros and its wings, the Sathanes have nothing to do with it.

[Roanoke]

That's a contradiction.
Nothing the GTVa had could touch the Sathanas fleet.
All GTVA assets were destroyed when Capella went supernova.

[Snail]

All GTVA assets were destroyed when Capella went supernova.

And the ships outside the Capella?