[foolfromhell]

I mean... even with Artificial gravity... the rotation is just plain cool!
Is there a reason it doesnt rotate?

Oh, and.
How can 1 Omega-X and 2 Warlocks destroy a Vorlon Dreadnaught?
The Vorlons cant be harmed by anything... except maybe Whitestars and massive amounts of Shadow Ships...

[Whitelight]

Hmmm..
B4 has that problem, but its caused from data missing from the pof. That is not the case with the Omega-X

Could you by chance have given it initial orders to play dead.

[foolfromhell]

Ah.
Didnt know that Play Dead stopped the rotating.
Btw, are there any Freespace 2 vanilla ships that rotate a part of their body?

[Hades]

The Science Vessel.The Zods gas miner and the Shivans gas miner

[Whitelight]

Stops the rotation only in FSOpen builds.. Will not work in retail FS2. 

[foolfromhell]

The Science Vessel.The Zods gas miner and the Shivans gas miner

Oh yeah. The Faustus.
Why does the Faustus rotate?
The GTVA has artificial gravity...

[TrashMan]

How can 1 Omega-X and 2 Warlocks destroy a Vorlon Dreadnaught?
The Vorlons cant be harmed by anything... except maybe Whitestars and massive amounts of Shadow Ships...

Warlocks and Omega-X's are DA BOMB man. Of course they can kick ass!

[Hades]

No kidding.
Littlekid:I want to be just like a Omega/Omega-X when I grow up.

[foolfromhell]

How can 1 Omega-X and 2 Warlocks destroy a Vorlon Dreadnaught?
The Vorlons cant be harmed by anything... except maybe Whitestars and massive amounts of Shadow Ships...

Warlocks and Omega-X's are DA BOMB man. Of course they can kick ass!

Well... In the TV show, the Vorlons are, indeed, extremely technologically advanced...
Their technology was vastly superior to Shadow technology, and the Shadows could only keep up because of their numbers.

I find it highly unrealistic if ANY Earth ship can take out a Vorlorn Dreadnaught.
Hell, the Vorlorn have ATLEAST a MILLION years advantage in technological evolution...
The Whitestars were using Vorlorn armor, so, they can, maybe, stand up to Vorlorn tech, but Human ships really shouldnt...
Even Warlocks with Shadow tech. (atleast, I think its teh warlock with the shadow tech)

[Roanoke]

Their technology was vastly superior to Shadow technology, and the Shadows could only keep up because of their numbers.

how'd ya figure that ?

[foolfromhell]

Their technology was vastly superior to Shadow technology, and the Shadows could only keep up because of their numbers.

how'd ya figure that ?

They said so in the show.
The Vorlorns used a few, VERY strong ships while the Shadows had MANY (relatively) weak ships.

Also, in the game, One Large Shadow Battlecrab can destroy a Vorlorn Dreadnaught with minimal damage.
Wtf?

[IceFire]

Vorlons can be harmed just the same as anything else.  JMS wrote the Sheridan character with a very healthy dose of "no enemy is ever completely invulnerable" into him.  There's a nice little bit of CGI during the Coriana 6 battle where two Thunderbolts flip on their tails and pummel a Vorlon fighter to bits.  If you blinked you might have missed it but I took that to heart.

The Vorlons are powerful and overwhelmingly potent but not ever completely invulnerable.

There's also no mention anywhere in the show of Vorlon ship numbers versus Shadow ship numbers.  We can generally surmise that one Vorlon Dreadnaught is likely individually more powerful than a Battlecrab but by how much we really don't know.  At Coriana 6 we see plenty of ships from both sides engaged with nobody seemingly having a vastly smaller force.

As far as the game is concerned balance and player interaction is key.  Although I did not balance the Shadow or Vorlon ships (I can take credit for some of the work done on the Earth, Minbari, Centauri, and Narn ones) I imagine thats the primary focus of the team.  Keep in mind that in the game the AI never uses the ship to full potential so its up to the mission designer to place the necessary waypoints and triggers to set certain parts of a battle to proceed the way they are meant to proceed.  Placement is key...it can make a huge difference.

[IPAndrews]

There's a nice little bit of CGI during the Coriana 6 battle where two Thunderbolts flip on their tails and pummel a Vorlon fighter to bits.

Yes I liked that sequence too. Give a caveman a club and a marine with an M16. If the caveman gets within swinging distances it's an even fight.

[Roanoke]

IIRC Daleen says during Babylon4 that if it were not for B4 the shadow war would have ended in stalemate. Given it takes the younger races to make the difference I'd say if anything the Shadows may have a slight edge.
Plus the shadow nuke-storm seems less vulnerable than the Vorlon Planet Killers.
Doesn't really matter though as direct conflict was never their aim.

There's a nice little bit of CGI during the Coriana 6 battle where two Thunderbolts flip on their tails and pummel a Vorlon fighter to bits.

Yes I liked that sequence too. Give a caveman a club and a marine with an M16. If the caveman gets within swinging distances it's an even fight.

Me too. IIRC that's one of the few times we see a Thunderbolt perform a dynamic  manouvre.

[-Norbert-]

IIRC Daleen says during Babylon4 that if it were not for B4 the shadow war would have ended in stalemate.

And how much everyone who thought to be an expert really knew about the Vorlon-Shadow conflict showed when Sheridan went to Za'ha'dum and afterwards.
What was it Deleen used to say? Something like "all the First Ones fought against the Shadows"?

[Roanoke]

IIRC Daleen says during Babylon4 that if it were not for B4 the shadow war would have ended in stalemate.

And how much everyone who thought to be an expert really knew about the Vorlon-Shadow conflict showed when Sheridan went to Za'ha'dum and afterwards.
What was it Deleen used to say? Something like "all the First Ones fought against the Shadows"?

You seem to have proven my point better than I did myself. It took the Vorlons & Others (1st ones, Mimbari etc) to see off the Shadows previously.

[foolfromhell]

Dont want to start a new thread-

Why doesnt the Shadow Carrier have a fighter bay?

[-Norbert-]

You seem to have proven my point better than I did myself. It took the Vorlons & Others (1st ones, Mimbari etc) to see off the Shadows previously.

No I didn't, because the other fist ones never fought the Shadows.
That was just what the Vorlons wanted the younger races to think, and of course Deleen beliefed it, since at that time she fully beliefed in the Vorlons without the shadow of a doubt.

Why do you think the wanderers of Sigma 957 were so pissed of at the mention of the Vorlons?

[Trivial Psychic]

I'm guessing that all the first ones (perhaps Lorien's race excluded) fought one another to some extent.  Things would have been very much like they were between the younger races during the B5 era.  All races would fight for the same reasons in fact... over territory, over resources, and over ideology.  The only difference is the timescale. For long-lived races, the amount of time wars would take to brew, take place, and then end, would be considerably longer.  There were most likely races that were more powerful than both the Vorlons and the Shadows combined, but they weren't the ones selected to remain behind to guide the younger races.  The Vorlons, with their pride, would most likely have sought to give the impression to the younger races, that everyone was on their side against the Shadows.  That would make it easier to sell the idea that they were the apex of all that is good and just.