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Offline Axem

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
I dunno if you would want my model. There's a few parts that changed for the better, but I don't think it matches well with the rest of the ship. A lot of the Moscow has large exaggerated detail sections, while I was trying to put in finer detail. I'm that finding a waste of time since you won't notice it 99% of the time.

 
Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
well, 99% of the time people dont was "WOW" and pass out from the awesomeness of a ship. And I think that is what we are going for, the best everyone has to offer. Trust me Axem, they want you your model  :nod:
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Offline Hellstryker

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
I'll do some work on it. You want it triangulated or no?

 

Offline Azhren

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
What's the progress on the modelling now? I cant model to save my life, but am interested in how it may turn out

Azhren

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
Have you had a :welcome: yet?


If so disregard,

Are there restrictions on the model? Any rules and regs, like each person has a poly cap to what they can add for instance?


Because i'd quite like to add to it, but i can't UV map to save my life.............literally.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Offline colecampbell666

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
No restrictions, except that you shouldn't change the whole model to suit your tastes. Add your own style, don't take other's away.

That's pretty much it.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

Offline bizzybody

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
Calling Anita Blake! Anita Blake to the forum! We have a thread that needs raised!

*bump*

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Offline blowfish

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
:necro:

No, I don't think so.

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
I'd forgotten about this ;)
I might add some bits and bobs.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Offline blowfish

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
I think its already got enough greebles.  It needs some turrets now.

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
A turret you say? I'll see what i have knocking about. I need to dl it first.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
President of the Scooby Doo Model Appreciation Society
The only good Zod is a dead Zod
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Offline Topgun

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
I bet this thing will never be uv'ed. nobody likes to uv map.

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
There's no such thing as bad practice. .
I'll attempt it at the weekend in fact :p

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Can't fins a working link so someone has to tell me where it is..
« Last Edit: June 11, 2008, 04:22:25 pm by Colonol Dekker »
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
President of the Scooby Doo Model Appreciation Society
The only good Zod is a dead Zod
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Offline bizzybody

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
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Offline Water

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
Heh, my former ISP still hasn't deleted my web-stuff. http://members.aceweb.com/gregg1/Moscow6.zip and http://members.aceweb.com/gregg1/Moscow7b.zip
Could you check your 7b version. It sorta looks like you were going to do some boolian stuff and then didn't.
Ignore the red plane, was just checking for lost faces.

 

Offline bizzybody

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
What'd you load that into? It looks and works fine in trueSpace 6.6. There aren't any missing faces, I fixed some and an unconnected vertex or two on the version I first downloaded. (Read up-thread a ways.)

One issue I have noticed with other apps importing .cob format is recessed areas where the edge is perfectly co-planar with a face and the vertexes aren't connected by edges. Then you get the recessed areas treated as a sub-object *inside* another object. LithUnwrap and Ultimate Unwrap will booger things up with such models. The fix is simply to add some edges in the right places then scoot the verts .001 one way or another so any further boolean operations won't remove those edges.

I can't upload to where those zips are because I canceled that ISP account in February, they just haven't got 'round to deleting my site yet.
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Offline Water

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
What'd you load that into? It looks and works fine in trueSpace 6.6. There aren't any missing faces, I fixed some and an unconnected vertex or two on the version I first downloaded. (Read up-thread a ways.)

One issue I have noticed with other apps importing .cob format is recessed areas where the edge is perfectly co-planar with a face and the vertexes aren't connected by edges. Then you get the recessed areas treated as a sub-object *inside* another object. LithUnwrap and Ultimate Unwrap will booger things up with such models. The fix is simply to add some edges in the right places then scoot the verts .001 one way or another so any further boolean operations won't remove those edges.
Well both Blender and AccuTrans have the same problem. Add LithUnwrap and Ultimate Unwrap and you have four pieces of software in agreement. Unfortunately Truespace 3.2 didn't agree, and since it's a Truespace format it wins.

Thanks for the info and we have a solution.
In Truespace hit the triangulate button then save.  Blender and AccuTrans are happy again.

 

Offline Vasudan Admiral

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
Well both Blender and AccuTrans have the same problem. Add LithUnwrap and Ultimate Unwrap and you have four pieces of software in agreement. Unfortunately Truespace 3.2 didn't agree, and since it's a Truespace format it wins.
Actually this is just TS being retarded once again. It's not got anything to do with the format, and it's just that TS can't figure out what to do with untriangulated ring shaped faces that it hasn't just created itself. All it involves is TS giving the ring shaped face a 'secret' triangulation so the renderer can draw it - where the edges aren't visible in edit mode or anywhere else.

If TS first creates the ring face it gives it a good guess as to how to 'secretly' triangulate it which usually means you won't see the effect, but when you import a model with a ring face it probably just picks where to do the edges based on vertex order, giving no regard to the actual shape of the face. When you triangulate, TS actually thinks about it a bit and tends to get it right. ish.
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Offline Flipside

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
Can Blender not triangulate the model before export? I know it doesn't look as 'clean' but I always tend to create the mesh using non-tri's, create the UVMap, then triangulate the model before export (though, admittedly, that is in Lightwave, not Blender). Seems to work pretty well for me.

 

Offline Vasudan Admiral

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Re: Cumulative Modelling – the GTCv Moscow
If it's been built well, there should be very little to no difference in the surfaces of a terran ship like this triangulated or not, which is probably why I didn't last time I exported. :)

Triangulating is just select all, ctrl+t though.
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