[Herra Tohtori]

Kyp durron wasn't more powerful, he was being aided by Exar Kun.

Well, he produced a hell of a reaction to the force sensitivity testing that Skywalker (or was it someone else) developed. Although I'm not sure if anyone ever tested Luke in the same manner, and I might have assumed too much. Oh well, he himself does/did consider himself more powerful than Luke. Or, the testing method was flawed somehow. Perhaps the Spice Dust enhanced the initial reaction when Kyp was tested either on or soon after leaving Kessel mining facilities...

At any rate, many sources [citation needed] tend to say that Anakin Skywalker was the most force sensitive being who ever existed, and others say that Luke shares the same power level with his father... where that leaves Leia is never told as far as I know, but she never trained whole-heartedly anyway, and her capabilities might have been directed on making negotiations work out for her side.

However, different jedi had different abilities regardless of their power level. Perhaps this particular force user just has extremely efficient way to use force in telekinesis or something just as hackish.

As for the Skywalker offspring and their relative strengths... I have no idea.

[Ghostavo]

Never seen anything that proves Jacen to be remarkably powerful; Anakin Solo perhaps, but not Jacen.

I've never read any SW novels, but from what I've read in diferent sources (wikipedia, wookiepedia, starwars main website, etc...), the guy has more knowledge about the force than anyone.

[Mefustae]

Well, he produced a hell of a reaction to the force sensitivity testing that Skywalker (or was it someone else) developed. Although I'm not sure if anyone ever tested Luke in the same manner, and I might have assumed too much. Oh well, he himself does/did consider himself more powerful than Luke. Or, the testing method was flawed somehow. Perhaps the Spice Dust enhanced the initial reaction when Kyp was tested either on or soon after leaving Kessel mining facilities...

IIRC, at the end of the Jedi Academy triology (...I think, it's been a while) Luke used a machine to test Kyp's force sensitivity or whatever, it was a device that had been invented during the Jedi Purge to take out force potentials when they were nice and young. Anyway, the reading from that was off the charts, considerably higher than Lukes. Not to mention another test, or perhaps a related test, when Kyp accidentally blew Luke across the room and nearly sent him off the edge of a rather high building on Coruscant.

Anyway, been a long while, but from what I remember he was pretty ****ing powerful. And this was stated  before he was corrupted by Exar Kun if my memory serves me right.

[NGTM-1R]

Never seen anything that proves Jacen to be remarkably powerful; Anakin Solo perhaps, but not Jacen.

I've never read any SW novels, but from what I've read in diferent sources (wikipedia, wookiepedia, starwars main website, etc...), the guy has more knowledge about the force than anyone.

He knows more, yes, because he learned everything Luke had to teach, and then went and joined up with a Sith...

[G0atmaster]

I only read the first page, and forgive me if I  sound incredibly stupid for that, but all you people who think a Jedi can't push a planet into a sun or redirect an ISD, remember Yoda's words to Luke on Dagobah as he lifts the X-wing out of the swamp:  "Size matters not."

[jr2]

Tell that to Yoda when he was trying to keep the pillar that Count Dooku tore down off of Obi-Wan and Anakin.

BTW, I heard somewhere that Han Solo actually had enough Force potential to become a Jedi, but didn't really care to.  (Which would explain his being able to shoot Greedo first when Greedo was a veteran bounty hunter, and his ability to fly the Falcon through the Kessel Run, and fly it through asteroid fields, his ability to know there was danger inside the asteroid critter... ).

[TrashMan]

 

EXTENDED UNIVERSE SUCK0RZ!

 

[redsniper]

DIE!

[TopAce]

Tell that to Yoda when he was trying to keep the pillar that Count Dooku tore down off of Obi-Wan and Anakin.

BTW, I heard somewhere that Han Solo actually had enough Force potential to become a Jedi, but didn't really care to.  (Which would explain his being able to shoot Greedo first when Greedo was a veteran bounty hunter, and his ability to fly the Falcon through the Kessel Run, and fly it through asteroid fields, his ability to know there was danger inside the asteroid critter... ).

This is so obviously fanon. Han Solo did not have a milimeter of Force-sensivity.

[Herra Tohtori]

He [Jacen] knows more, yes, because he learned everything Luke had to teach, and then went and joined up with a Sith...

Wait, you mean Luke didn't join the cloned Emperor briefly and turn to dark side as well...?

 

[jr2]

This is so obviously fanon. Han Solo did not have a milimeter of Force-sensivity.

Do check that out.... I trust the source.  (But who knows about his source.)  He had all the SW books etc (well, of them) and novels.

[NGTM-1R]

Wait, you mean Luke didn't join the cloned Emperor briefly and turn to dark side as well...?

 

Luke never earned a "Darth" title.

[Herra Tohtori]

Isn't that more like a formal title of a Sith lord? It's absence does not necessarily mean that the character wasn't a fully matured dark side user, just that he never took the title for one reason or another.

Exar Kun comes to mind as a good example of a Sith without the Darth title apparent in his name, as well as many other Sith/Dark side masters... Ajunta Pall and the other merry men whose tombs are/were in Korriban, Witches of Dathomir, Joruus C'Baoth (who, granted, was more than a bit insane).

EDIT: cut one sentence of misinformation away.

[TopAce]

This is so obviously fanon. Han Solo did not have a milimeter of Force-sensivity.

Do check that out.... I trust the source.  (But who knows about his source.)  He had all the SW books etc (well, of them) and novels.

Owning books doesn't verify anything, not to mention that not ALL books are canon. There are a lot of weird, real inconceivable stories like Infinities that are not canon, or only a small part is canon. Han Solo was not Force-sensible, it is your friend that should check it out. Find the source and check its canonicity. I guess he must have read a lot of SuperShadow.

[Herra Tohtori]

All creatures dull and ugly* are sensitive to the Force to some degree in the galaxy far, far away. AFAIK, the living force affects creatures connected to it; some who are connected to it stronger than others can sense it guiding them, or even guide the force to varying extent. Those are the Jedi.

Seeing how damn incredibly lucky Mr. Solo was/is during his entire life, I'd say that the force guided him a bit stronger than some others. Or you might say it was unconscious use of the Force... it's impossible to know for sure whether or not he would have had enough sensitivity to learn to control the force, but there are pointers that he was more sensitive to it than your average Star Wars alien. Even though he called it a hokey pokey religion.


*Except the Yuuzhan Vong, and even that was artificial if I reckon right...

[NGTM-1R]

Seeing how damn incredibly lucky Mr. Solo was/is during his entire life, I'd say that the force guided him a bit stronger than some others. Or you might say it was unconscious use of the Force... it's impossible to know for sure whether or not he would have had enough sensitivity to learn to control the force, but there are pointers that he was more sensitive to it than your average Star Wars alien. Even though he called it a hokey pokey religion.

I recall a quote from I, Jedi, regarding Tycho Celchu and Wedge Antilles, and the fact that one for one in a fighter battle they were as good, or better, than a Jedi. (Corran Horn couldn't handle Tycho despite Jedi training and having a more manuverable ship over Xa Fel.) Not because the Force was connected to them; they were simply that good. Another one comes to mind on Mara Jade's comment to Exar Kun about his torture technique; "Isard would have had you analyzed, digitized, and discarded without a thought, and she wasn't even Force sensative."

Some people are simply exceptional enough to do as well or better than a Jedi. Generally only in one area, but not always.

[Herra Tohtori]

Yes, but you're talking about skill and experience, and while Mr. Solo certainly had loads of those as well, I'm talking about luck here. He was usually in the right place at the right time considering the big picture of his life (although he might have disagreed with being lucky for most of time...). In small things the chance was apparently on his side ("I can already see a lot better!" and "Boba Fett?! Where?!" come to mind as prime examples of this).

And as we have been told, in SW galaxy far far away there is no luck, there's just Force... Those above average connection with the Force are usually lucky.

Mr. Solo definitely did have a lot of features that were often associated with potential force-sensitives. He's lucky, good in combat, has good intuition, can keep the Millennium Falcon flying even though it looks like it's gonna fall apart at a moment's notice, and I can't imagine Mr. Solo's mind giving in to Jedi Mind tricks or Force persuasion. Plus, his and Leia's children all were strong in the Force, and even though I havent got any idea of how the genetics of force potential go, I don't think the odds of completely force-insensitive male and Skywalker-strength female having three Skywalker-sensitive kids is very high... or something.*

All this migh have been a fluke (or plot devices) but I find it at leat partially credible possibility that he was somewhat more force-sensitive than regular humans. Whether or not it would have sufficed to be taken to Jedi training, either in the days of Old or New Republic, I haven't got the faintest idea.

*Meh. Reality check - it's magic science fiction, real science is not applicable to SW universe so I'm mostly just wasting my time, but at least it's fun.

Is ther eany canon evidence of Solo's force-sensitivity at all? Forth or against?

[TopAce]

If his Force-sensivity is not mentioned in any canonical source - or defied in a source that is higher in SW canon hierarchy - then he is not Force-sensitive. If he were SUPPOSED to be Force-sensitive, it would have been revealed already.

Why do you insist so much on Solo being Force-sensitive? That you're lucky and have good instincts does not mean a thing. There are many characters with exceptional skills and talents who were not Force-sensitive.

By the way, you are right about most creatures being connected to the Force, but being connected (surrounded) by the Force does not mean you can sense it. It is like listening to a radio from 100 meters, volume level normal. Your ears may not be good enough to actually hear anything, but most animals, whose ears are more sophisticated than those of a human are able to hear what the radio is saying.

[Herra Tohtori]

I don't mean to insist anything. Just saying that being lucky and having fast reflexes etcetera are amongst the signs of potential force-sensitivity. Whether or not they are examples of coincidences for the character's behalf and him having exceptional physical properties or mental skills without being force-sensitive, or actual manifestations of force-sensitivity, we have no way of knowing.

You could see it like this - if an old republic Jedi would have tumbled upon Han Solo, what would he or she have thought when looking at Mr. Solo's antics for a while? My bet is that he or she would have definitely tested his midi-chlorian count and at least ask some questions and stuff. Whether or not they would have found him force-sensitive or just a statistical anomaly, remains to everyone's imagination.

Interpretations, people. Interpretations. Means that you form your own idea of what goes on in the story. Even though there hasn't apparently been any canon mention about Mr. Solo's force-sensitivity being slightly more than average, doesn't mean a thing for or against.


The Jedi learn to let the Force guide their movements. Is it so far-fetched to think that since the Force is connected to and generated by all beings, Mr. Solo's connection could possibly be just a tad bit more than average, which would mean that the Force would guide him unconsciously a bit more than average sentient in SW universe? He definitely does not consciously sense the force, nor can he affect it like the Jedi can, but that does not mean the Force could not affect him.

It would enable him to "read people" better than average person. Make him suspicious when something fishy is going on. Improve response time. Guide his hand to get a pot shot at a moving tentacle monster past his friend held by said tentacles, half-blind (I mean, is this normal for anyone?). There are other examples as well. They might be coincidences and just general signs of Han Solo's awesomeness, but I generally don't believe in coincidences.

Not to mention that force sensitivity in SW universe could actually been as an explanation for things such as luck... Those with a bit better force-sensitivity than others are sometimes "guided" more than others, making them appear luckier... or unluckier, or otherwise exceptional. Obi-Wan certainly thinks that there's no such thing as luck... And Mace Windu has stated that there is no such thing as coincidence. Which is pretty much the same thing.

Besides, it's a better explanation for Character Shield than most others.

[Mongoose]

There are no such things as midi-chlorians.  It was all just a bad dream.