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Offline nvsblmnc

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Most of those are okay, but I'm not sure that the GTVA Lighthouse is really colossus-y.

Perhaps the GTVA Alexandria instead?
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Offline Jeff Vader

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How 'bout GTVA Titan, plain and simple? Or I dunno, just came to my mind.

Then a bit off-topic. Something has been bothering me for some time. When we talk about the Colossus, the whole title is GTVA Colossus. What on Earth does the A stand for in that particula case?
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14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
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14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

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01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
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Offline nvsblmnc

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Alliance.

The Colossus was meant to be a one-off and represented the full GTVA (in my opinion).  No class name, no copies, no way of stopping it.

shame about the last part eh?
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Oh... Makes sense... I guess. Well, now that it has been proven that even the Colossus can be stopped, could we assume that in the future they'd just switch it to GTVJ, as in Galactic Terran-Vasudan Juggernaut (well duh)?
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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the colossus design isn't very good.. takes too long to build, doesn't pack enough firepower for it's size, and requires too much crew for a single warship.   I would design a new ship faster to build with more firepower.
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the colossus design isn't very good.. takes too long to build, doesn't pack enough firepower for it's size, and requires too much crew for a single warship.   I would design a new ship faster to build with more firepower.

The Colossus in FS2 was something of an original, and all originals take longer to build.  Considering that 3 Hecates/Orions total the number of crew of the Colossus, I would say the ship needs to many crew.  Firepower you have something of a point, but considering they were 1st Generation GTVA beams, that really couldn't be helped.  With several upgrades the Colossus can beat down a Sathanas one-on-one (will take heavy dmg though).

Heck, I've designed 3 'specialist' Colossus-class warships, each with their own function:

-Vasudan 'sniper' photon beams, 24k range, moderate dmg and somewhat slower recharge time (a max. range broadside cuts down a Sathanas by the time it closes range to 19-20km)
-Terran 'shotgun' plasma beams, 8km range, extremely high dmg but slow recharge (a good broadside using these from a Colossus vapourizes the Sathanas in 10 seconds)
-Shivan 'machinegun' laser beams, 15km range, moderate dmg but very fast recharge (use it for wiping out warship swarms)

-add the plot device of better heatsinks, reactors, beam calibrations and you can have it make sense  ;7

Back on topic:

You could use names besides the 7 Ancient Wonders, try something that would sound cool:

-GTVA Democracy
-GTVA Divinity
-GTVA Tremendous

 

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How 'bout GTVA Titan, plain and simple? Or I dunno, just came to my mind.

Then a bit off-topic. Something has been bothering me for some time. When we talk about the Colossus, the whole title is GTVA Colossus. What on Earth does the A stand for in that particula case?

GTVA = Galactic Terran Vasudan Aliance

anyway, back to topic, there was only one Colossus, and it proved to be a falure in battle, the GTVA wouldnt build one again they would simulate other ways to beat a "sathanis" (excuse my spelling) like smaller craft
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The Colossus was not a failure, it excelled at what it was built to do,
#1 Defeat the NTF.
#2 Defeat tons of destroyers and ships.
#3 Defeat a Sathanas.
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The Colossus was not a failure, it excelled at what it was built to do,
#1 Defeat the NTF.
#2 Defeat tons of destroyers and ships.
#3 Defeat a Sathanas.

:yes:

Add:

#4 Prevented the Shivans from concentrating their forces on the Bastion.

the colossus design isn't very good.. takes too long to build, doesn't pack enough firepower for it's size, and requires too much crew for a single warship.   I would design a new ship faster to build with more firepower.

30,000 crewmen for something 12 times bigger than a Superdestroyer like the Lucifer isn't that much. I expect much, much more from it. An average 50,000.
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Yeah, it did fairly well considering how badly most GTVA ships bigger than a bomber stack up against their shivan counterparts (Hecate vs Ravana? OWWWW!)

 

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The Colossus was not a failure, it excelled at what it was built to do,
#1 Defeat the NTF.
#2 Defeat tons of destroyers and ships.

This would be the corrected version, since the Sathanas was not known at the time the Colossus was built. The Colossus seems designed to hunt and kill destroyers, something it does very well in practice; having actually tested this a couple of times with the Colossus versus a Fleet/Battlegroup the Colossus will without fail lay waste once it gets within range. If it happens to emerge from subspace close-by or in the midst of such a formation...well "You will find its firepower most impressive, for the short time you are still alive."
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The Colossus was not a failure, it excelled at what it was built to do,
#1 Defeat the NTF.
#2 Defeat tons of destroyers and ships.

This would be the corrected version, since the Sathanas was not known at the time the Colossus was built. The Colossus seems designed to hunt and kill destroyers, something it does very well in practice; having actually tested this a couple of times with the Colossus versus a Fleet/Battlegroup the Colossus will without fail lay waste once it gets within range. If it happens to emerge from subspace close-by or in the midst of such a formation...well "You will find its firepower most impressive, for the short time you are still alive."

You could actually leave out the NTF part since the NTF rebellion began by the time Colossus neared completion.  However, it is indeed a fearsome warship to encounter, even without Vasudan beams or escorts.  If the Colossus had Vasudan beams, and if Command had deployed several destroyers and corvettes with it during 'High Noon', it is very likely that there wouldn't be any need to overdrive its beams to win.

As I've said before, make some adjustments to the Colossus (better armor, better reactors, heatsinks, AAA coverage, more fighterbay exits, and especially stronger beams) and it'll be good to handle node blockades against even juggernauts.

In the meantime, more names:

GTVA Cosmos
GTVA Protector
GTVA Defender
GTVA Salvation
GTVA Cronus
GTVA Odysseus
GTVA Sphinx
GTVA Obelisk
GTVA Heliopolis
GTVA Abydos

 

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IIRC the Collie was built to destroy Lucifers.

 

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That ship attacks with full broad side - pop it between some destroyers.

Has anyone noted the way it turns?
Once I was in High Noon, and I saw the front end of the Collie really moving away from me fast. It took a while to realise its centre of gravity was near the back somewhere. Then it decided to turn the other way, and I got scared. :nervous:
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When the reactor explodes, it's usually a sign that you've taken too much damage.

 

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It's a homerun!!!!! :lol:


*Sathanas 17 spirals towards the Capella sun*
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It's a homerun!!!!! :lol:


*Sathanas 17 spirals towards the Capella sun*

now thats a thing I would pay good money to see.  :lol:
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It does happen sometimes if you un-disable the Colosuss ;7
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That ship attacks with full broad side - pop it between some destroyers.

Has anyone noted the way it turns?
Once I was in High Noon, and I saw the front end of the Collie really moving away from me fast. It took a while to realise its centre of gravity was near the back somewhere. Then it decided to turn the other way, and I got scared. :nervous:

That's why you don't give it orders to directly attack something, you need to plot out the proper waypoints for it to follow so it doesn't try to dogfight (which though funny, isn't realistic).

One more name for a new Colossus:

GTVA Fortress