[Getter Robo G]

Ok, so if I decide to treat some new weapons for a specific purpose AS missiles/bombs, my question is: CAN you have a weapon POF that has a rotating hull/body by making the core of a weapon a small cube and have the weapon rotate around that point???

  I haven't tried it myself yet, and wanted some info before I got all excited in case it can't be done. A few of them will rotate towards the target like a sawblade, while others will rotate sideways like a drill.

[TrashMan]

Ship can, but I dunno about missiles. Nomrllay you set the rotation (like radard) in the ships.tbl, dunno if you can put something like that for missiles...especually since missiles aren't supposed to have subsystems..

[Getter Robo G]

Well I guess I could make it a situation liek a ship firing a ship at the target then. But then how do I make sure the "ship/weapon" detonates on impact without having to FRED it. Some sort of table tag to detonate in proximity?

You might have guessed it by now but I am almost ready to test the Rocket Punch/Screw Scruncher Punch as well as some thrown melee weapons like Axes (but they all have rotating parts or will rotate in entirety themselves.)

[Wanderer]

Weapon rotations can - most likely - be scripted...

[JGZinv]

Myself and Baxslash went over something pretty similar
Robo... We arrived at the final idea of ship launching ship or ship triggers
powerup icon that launches ship else ware...

[Nuke]

i tried this once for a rail gun effect and it didnt work. you can do this with scripting. just increment the Orientation.b value every frame. would be something like:

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for i=1, #mn.Weapons do
 if mn.Weapons[i].Name == "spinningmissilethingie" then
  ori = mn.Weapon[i].Orientation
  ori.b = ori.b + 5*ba.getFrametime();
  mn.Weapon[i].Orientation = ori
 end
end

im not sure you might need to do some matrix math, im not sure if applied rotations are local or if this is for its world space transform. if that doesnty work you can just borrow my matrix multiply function (i think its called matx), from my guided missile script then you can substitute:
ori = mn.Weapon.Orientation
with
ori = ba.createVector(0,0,0):getOrientation()
this essentially creates a blank orientation, rather than copying the original then replace:
mn.Weapon.Orientation = ori
with
mn.Weapon.Orientation = matx(ori, mn.Weapon.Orientation)
that should work

[Wanderer]

Game handles orientations already as matrixes so there is really no need to do that calculation via scripts IMHO let the game engine do that as the 'hard code' for it already exists.

[Nuke]

sometimes the way the game handles matrices doesnt work with what you want to do. like with my guided missile script, i tried doing something similar to what i posted, but if you were at an odd angle, like if you had rolled 90 degrees left and right would be up and down. though im pretty sure therers another way around the problem.

[Wanderer]

Cant be sure but iirc missiles - at least non-external model missiles - fire always using the same 'banking orientation'. Perhaps just something like swapping missiles 'roll angle' to same as which the ship has at the moment of firing?

BTW... the script you posted...

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  ori = mn.Weapon[i].Orientation
  ori.b = ori.p + 5*ba.getGrametime();
  mn.Weapon[i].Orientation = oriThat would generate rather weird flight behavior

[Nuke]

howed that p get in there

anyway that could work but i wanted the missile to behave like it was a ship, for the missile cam i was trying to implement. essentially i wanted it to work just like it did in descent 2.

we really need more scripters. just so that i have scripts to look at. im certainly good at generating them but its hard to come up with ideas sometimes. i spend of time thinking about what can be done and what cant. and im pretty sure theres stuff that i think is impossible that can be done. more scripters means more people to poke at more problewms from more angles and in theory get more done and come up with better scripts. seriously lua is one of the more plesant languages ive written in. its straight forward and dynamicness is automatic. id also like to see more coders participate because i think the system should be allowed to grow.

[Warp Shadow]

I personally think it would be MUCH easier to do in FRED. Make it a ship with rotating sub-objects and then just check off "kamikaze" in FRED.

[Nuke]

im skilled in every aspect of fs modding but fred. so nothing in fred is easy

[Getter Robo G]

Yeah Warp Shadow... I think I'll try that also. Unfortunately, if I go that route that will eat up like around 10 ship slots (future weapon list).