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Offline Kosh

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I'm surprised there hasn't been any discussion here about him. So what do you guys think?


I don't agree with some of his proposed policies (although I do agree with others), but he does have a point about one thing: America needs serious, profound change.
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Offline Roanoke

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not everybody lives in America.....

 

Offline Kosh

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Doesn't matter, you're still entitled to your opinions. Plus it doesn't really matter whether or not you live in america because the next president's policies will affect your country in one way or another.
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Roanoke

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Doesn't matter, you're still entitled to your opinions. Plus it doesn't really matter whether or not you live in america because the next president's policies will affect your country in one way or another.

what I really meant was I've no idea who he is. Got any links ?

  

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what I really meant was I've no idea who he is. Got any links ?

:yes:

But we all knew Colin McRae.
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Offline achtung

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I want to see a summarized list of his policies.
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Offline Prophet

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Who the **** is Ron Paul and why should I care?
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Offline Goober5000

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul
http://ronpaul2008.com/

Look for him on YouTube too; he's got a lot of coverage.

 

Offline TrashMan

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Sound smarter than Bush...I read a bit and he seems a decent sort, alltough I'm not sure what his stand is on pollution - the following working cofuses me:

He is also an advocate of private property rights for pollution prevention, habeas corpus for political detainees, and greater ballot access.


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Offline BloodEagle

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It means that he accepts bribes. Just like every other politician.  :arrr:

 

Offline wdarkk

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Well, he's less messed up than Bush. Then again, I'd vote for Nixon against Bush no hesitation. At least Nixon was ashamed of it.

 

Offline Polpolion

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Except Bush didn't do anything like the Watergate scandal at all, AFAIK.

 

Offline redsniper

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Yeah, 'cuz starting a pointless war is no big deal.
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Offline Unknown Target

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I don't like how he wants to get rid of all government agencies, but I do like his style - I'm personally a fan of Mike Gravel, which is kind of like his...what's the word...he's basically the Democratic version of Ron Paul.

 

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No war; think about happy things."   -WouterSmitssm

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Offline Polpolion

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Yeah, 'cuz starting a pointless war is no big deal.

A war isn't technically against any laws. It's not like it is a secret war, either. And then the US voters re-elected him, when they knew he would continue the war.
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Offline BloodEagle

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Except Bush didn't do anything like the Watergate scandal at all, AFAIK.

Are you talking about the wire-tapping, or the cover-up? Because Nixon had nothing to do with the former.

 

Offline Herra Tohtori

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Meh, politics...

I've long since come to the following conclusion: Politics in most countries is like looking at three huge containers full of liquidy dung. On the left side, you got crap stirred clock-wise, on the right side you got crap stirred counter-clockwise.

In the middle you can have it just shaken, not stir.

From these options, choose the one you prefer.


This description is not equally apt in every country (sometimes some politicians really screw things up so the equilibrium between the crappyness of options is lost), but for the most part, every political party deals with majority of things in roughly the same way. Usually because it's damn difficult to come up with better ways to deal with things, and the political party/ies in the majority are afraid of changing things because if they get it wrong, they get accused of making things worse (quite accurately). This leads to politicians keeping things roughly the same as they are - if things are good they are easier to keep so by continuing the practices, if they are frakked up they tend to stay so.

It's also very easy and fast to frak things up good and proper with making too much changes and getting them wrong.

And every political party has their bull****ters and dungslingers. Honest servants of the public don't tend to do well in politics (and they seldom get into it in the first place). :rolleyes:


Oh... about the topic... I just wanted to say my opinion about politics in general. I could guess that this guy could do better* work than Bush, but that wouldn't be an accomplishment in itself.


*good, definition: something that I could agree with to some extent; better: comparative form of good; means I could probably agree with this guy's decicions somewhat better than Bush's. There are parts that I would disagree, but hey, you can't always win, not even every time.

In an ideal world, I would be the benevolent** dictator and all would be good.


**of course, I would only be benevolent to those who agree with me and have no problem with my directives. Those poor blighters who disagree can go to hell or whatever their religion condemns them to after their deaths. Who the hell they think they are.

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Ron Paul is awesome in that he is focusing on fixing America's problems and not sticking our nose into the world's problems. And we do have quite a few problems, including the national debt. He also is committed to American sovereignty, and by that I mean he is committed to making damn sure that American affairs are never controlled, economically or otherwise, by any other nation.

My personal political view is that if democracy is so awesome, other countries not employing it will discover it for themselves without our intervention. The rest of the world can manage itself; we need to focus on what we can do for the people back home. The President of the United States is the leader of the people, and his/her agenda should be in the best interests of the people. Ron Paul is committed to doing that.

The USA should be more worried about internal affairs than foreign policy. Work on ourselves before we try to work on the world (if at all).
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