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Offline d2freak

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Some problems with setting the controls
Well first of all, thanks for this wonderfull project! Amazing job i must say. I actually never played FS2 before but ive seen friends play it and such (funnily, the graphics made me not giving it a chanse myself) and so i could hardly believe my eyes when i installed this improvment.

I encountered a problem though and i figured this would be the best place to ask for help...see, the thing is, I cant seem to be able to go reverse with my ship... even tho i mapped the function correctly...

I have a logitech gamepad and it works to 100% on every other game ive tried so far...old and new... and it is correctly recognized by your project in all ways...even force feedback works as well as all other commands except reverse. Also, i have come to think its not really a problem with my gamepad becouse, weirdly, in the first training mission when the instructor tells me to go reverse and when i press the assigned button the ship wont react at all and yet he says "good" and continiues....

also, i noticed the default control for the keyboard for reverse (z) also doesnt work...

or maybe...it do work and its just me who doesnt understand its function... its suposed to make me go backwards right? and as well "brake" right? it doesnt do any of this. If the ship is standing ccompletely still and i press it... *nothing* moves.

I hope you understand my explanation... english is not main language hehe :) thanks peoples!

edit: since this board seems to be somewhat hi-tech I should maybe tell in advance a few things that might be helpfull... heres my install procedure:
I didnt have FS2 at all so i used the automatic installer to download the retail game as well...I choose to install all components of retail FS2 and then all the improvements and none of the mods... and i let the installer download and install to a completely empty folder "FreeSpace2"
As such, i couldnt install the official patch before I installed FSOpen but i did completely assume that the installer did this for me...would be weird otherwise... anyway... afterwards, there were no errors - just a reminder that i needed OpenAL... so i got it and installed it.

in the launcher i put openGL for video output since i heard direct3d isnt supported...I checked "use big textures" and graphic setting (on that page) to "high" (highest) AA to 4 and AF to 16 ... and ehm what else...sound is set to software.... and here are my commands to the executable:

D:\FreeSpace2\fs2_open_3_6_9.exe -mod mediavps -spec -glow -env -jpgtga -mipmap -nomotiondebris -2d_poof -missile_lighting -dualscanlines -targetinfo -orbradar -rearm_timer -ballistic_gauge -3dwarp -warp_flash -snd_preload

if you need more info just ask :)
« Last Edit: September 19, 2007, 01:48:12 pm by d2freak »

 

Offline Topgun

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Re: Some problems with setting the controls
that only woks in BtRL. freespace physics don't allow that, unless you hacked in some new physics values. -joshua- made a physics mod that allows reverse.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Some problems with setting the controls
Isn't there some kind of a partial reverse in TBP, too? If you keep the decelerate button pressed long enough, the ship will start to go backwards. Or somethin'. Shiver me timbers!

Also, d2freak,
:welcomeyellow:
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23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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Offline d2freak

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Re: Some problems with setting the controls
Say what now? it isnt possible to reverse?

then why does the instructor say "now...i want you to try the reverse thrust! drop 200 meters behind me!" or something like that...even with a true voice... and when i press the button he says something like "good" and continius with the lessons

also, otherwise, how the hell would i be able to slow down when im traveling forward? sure it sinks in speed and finally stops if i stop holding the "forward thrust" button but it sure takes a while.

also, why would this option be in the controls screen if it cant be used

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Some problems with setting the controls
He wants you to decelerate, i.e drop your speed so that you fall back 200 metres from him. Not reversing thrust. Just slowing down.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline d2freak

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Re: Some problems with setting the controls
Oh! I see. Hehe i bet it shows that ive never played this game before :P

Thanks alot both of you!

Ill be best off just unassigning "reverse thrust" then :) (I wont be playing any mod)

  

Offline Jeff Vader

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  • Bwahaha
Re: Some problems with setting the controls
That's OK. Back when I started with FS, I was basically "Wtf? How the hell do you turn this damn thing?!" in the first training mission. Should've read the manual.

Have fun with FSO. Also try the FSPort, the mod that allows you to play the FS1 campaign with all the fancy things FSO provides.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []