[Skullar]

I noticed that the hyperspace vortexes that used to be fine in previous releases seem to be WAY too big now....
They all appear many  times bigger as they should.

[Vidmaster]

I noticed during the development of my recent campaign, that a 1000m 2d jumpeffect works well inside the jumpgate but when I replaced them with a 3d, it looked like the jumpgate jumped and I had to scale it down to 650m.

Maybe it has something to do with that ?

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[Skullar]

similar effect. I don't know if this is a fresh bug or if it has been done on purpose.
When using custom Jumppoints it's no problem, but when ships jump in and out of their own, their jumppoints are WAY too exaggerated. Anyone else noticed ?

[IPAndrews]

The change happened when we moved to the new 3D warp effect model. Which is generally an improvement. It's just the size thing. The person you need to bug about it is Asprin. The effect comes from his Minbari Project team. I will give you his ICQ# when I get chance.

[Skullar]

Ian, I am sure I have seen the 3d-model ingame with correct scaling. Just like the one who did the BABYLON_FLAIL video you all know...

[IPAndrews]

Why don't you investigate? If you can provide fixed files I'll ensure they are in 3.4a.

[Skullar]

I would, but I am afraid I have no idea where to start. Not my area of expertise.

[IPAndrews]

No. Me neither.

[Skullar]

  Supersized jumppoint vortex and missing glowmap support make Skullar go crazy 
 
It's convenient to complain when you are not the one supposed to clean up the mess, but someone has to say something !!! 

[IPAndrews]

Say what you like. Just don't expect me to fix it.

[jr2]

If you get Asprin's ICQ #, and no one else here wants to, I can contact him.

[Cavane]

Say what you like. Just don't expect me to fix it.

I sense the tone of someone who's troubleshot enough TBP issues for one lifetime.

[IPAndrews]

That's not it. It's just I don't have the time. If you guys provide an improved warpin model, one from an earlier version of the mod or a rescaled version of the new one by Asprin, then I will ensure it goes in the download. But that's the best I can offer. It's put up or shut up time people. If something's bugging you you're going to have to do some work to fix it yourselves now.

[Asprin]

The effect comes from his Minbari Project team.

Well, the size of hyperspace vortex has been corrected up to actual (as Ian asked me day ago), however we're still working on warp out physics. The vortex also will has minimum size for all ships smaller then a jumpgate, vortex for other ships will depend on its x/y/z size.

[Asprin]

...I hope this size is actual: http://fsdnl.jino-net.ru/warpin.avi

[Skullar]

WOW !!!!!  Is this TBP ingame ? 
Cooooooooooooool , and the ships are also "fast" when coming out of hyperspace.

Thats just GREAT man !!!!
How can I thank you ?

[Asprin]

Is this TBP ingame ?

Yes. But remember - work is still in progress. Warp in is ok, but warp out is not.

[IPAndrews]

More important than your custom built gam engine Asprin, please can you provide a resized version of your 3d warp pof which results in a smaller vortex. As you can see, people think the current one is rather big. This is a pressing matter. While your custom game engine is something for later.

[Skullar]

The vortexes I have ingame are MANY TIMES the size of the one you see in his beautiful vid.
So, I wondered if I just have a strange bug.

[Asprin]

your 3d warp pof

Ian, it is not pof model. It is cpp changes.