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       Why not make it more of a Q-ship? That way both sides of this argument will be happy.

       Make one version with freighter-class weapons . . .ie, no BGreens . . . largely defensive guns etcetera. Maybe one or two small anti-ship beams as their precedent for it on the Medical Cruiser.

      And then you can also have a Q-ship version, which isn't really a freighter at all, but instead it's basically a warship. If you have like a convoy of a few of these frieghters, say 3, then someone gets wise and decides to jump them to steal the cargo they realise "oh boy, that one freighter's packing a lot of heat" and sends the enemy running. Or alternatively, some pirates can sneak one of these heavier armed ships into a convoy to jump the other freighters at an opportune time.

     Or the odd heavily-armed ship could be a deterrent to attack the class a whole since raiders won't know what sort their target is. So say you have a ratio of 5 freighters to 1 freighter frigate or somesuch.

     Or alternatively, maybe the Freighter Frigate represents an auxilliary upgrade. Basically a second line warship pushed into service in defense of the GTVA in time of war. Normally it's a freighter, but in times of war it becomes a pseudo-warship.


    See the thing about putting guns on a freighter is, the more guns you have on the ship, the less room you have for cargo. Which generally isn't profitable. If the cargo is sensitive enough to design an entirely new ship class for it just to transport it, why not just transport it on a warship? An Orion has cargo capacity like any other ship, that's how it carries its food and so forth.

    Furthermore one question to ask is, how many types of cargo are both:
      A - Important enough to justify the development and production of a new ship class
      B - Bulky enough to require a dedicated freighter style ship with a large cargo capacity.

   And one last thing . . . freighters generally aren't designed to defend themselves because they aren't supposed to see combat. Even in a convoy attack, the support warships and fighters should engage the enemy before they even get the chance to attack the freighter. If a freighter is required to defend itself, whoever's escorting it is already NOT doing their job. Freighters don't need to take a lot of hits because if the escort is adequate, they shouldn't take any in the first place. Of course to really ensure this, you'd need all around coverage like the Bastion got when it blew the node.

 

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I say it's a good idea. BGreen may be slightly overpowered but I still support the concept of an "armed cargo frigate." It could be a ship for transporting large amounts of crap through enemy space, instead of using a load of Tritons which need a load of cruisers, corvettes and fighters to effectively protect (taking Alpha 1 out of the equation, of course). Instead of using a convoy of Tritons which need a lot of escort to protect (escort which should be used elsewhere), you send just one of these things in and it will blow away any cruiser or corvette that attacks it.

Why not make it more of a Q-ship? That way both sides of this argument will be happy.

Q-ships don't seem to work in FreeSpace. It's been discussed many times before but people always point stuff out like, [press-k]...

 
Why not make it more of a Q-ship? That way both sides of this argument will be happy.

Q-ships don't seem to work in FreeSpace. It's been discussed many times before but people always point stuff out like, [press-k]...

     Targeting a subsystem tells you that it's a beam turret, it doesn't tell you if it's an AAAf or a TerSlash though. There's a certain amount of Q-shipping that can be done. If the pirates rely on gunboats (ie armed freighters) to do their dirty work, then anti-ship beams instead of AAAf become quite effective for example.

 

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Q ship idea is ok. But i don't see what's wrong with making a destroyer with a bit more capacity than normal. They could be refit as vip transports or arms couriers. God knows scurvy space pirates want guns.
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New ship. Possible Civilian Liner.

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[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 
New ship. Possible Civilian Liner.

I'm liking the paneling a great deal.

And maybe you disagree, but I think it should look less blocky; though it is a Civilian Liner.

 

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New Super Freighter.

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[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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Looks more like a cargo container than a ship to me. How about modelling a freighter to go with it?

 

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I thought that would have been an original Steadfast feature :P
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Updated cylinder pods on the Glaucus.
EDIT: What about a Cargo Container with engines? It moves by its self to new places. :D

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[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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Are you sure about the name? Do you really like "Glaucus"?
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Offline Hades

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Yes.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
----
<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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I still like Glaucius better.
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But that is not proper Greek spelling. So it kind of defeats the purpose of naming it after a Greek god. :\
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
----
<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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But that is not proper Greek spelling. So it kind of defeats the purpose of naming it after a Greek god. :\

If it sounds better, it is better.

 

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Gla-u-c-e-us OR Gla-u-cus. I like the latter better. :P
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
----
<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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And I the former.

 

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I would be the dominant Allele in this case because... it is my model. :P
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
----
<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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But the recessive allele never goes away.  Even it the condition it carries is fatal ... it will stay in a corner of the genetic pool.

I prefer the former anyway.  That would make one dominant and two reces ... wait you can't have three alleles.  One has to go.

 

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One of the recessives would go because they are not dominant, the dominant one is dominant.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
----
<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL