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Aye. What is :v:, is canon. And seriously. FreeSpace isn't "Learn Latin/Greek/Italian/Swedish with Timmy Terran and Vince Vasudan". It's a ****ing spaceship-shooting-3D-****-the-physics action game.
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Remember, Mobius, the people who made FS2 weren't genii (****ing plurals). They didn't know everything about physics, about astronomy and ancient languages. They just did what was cool and what would go well with people. Naming Capella HD375823552343432 may have been astronomically appropriate, but that would be utterly stupid and uncool.

 

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You're exaggerating...

There's a mix of names. Why "Aquitaine", which is English, and "Messana", which is Latin(just to give an example)?

Stars are homes...HD375823552343432 isn't as appropriate as Capella. FS features many systems whose names don't appear in our maps, possibly for the reason explained before.
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There's a mix of names. Why "Aquitaine", which is English, and "Messana", which is Latin(just to give an example)?

So? It doesn't matter. Those aren't what I call misspelled. They're different languages. What I call misspelled is something like Loosifer which isn't a word in any language.

 

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IMO you should edit the title of this thread ;)
Umm to what?

To the name of the model, for example?!? There are several models in this thread, they just all look like coffins.

The dead fleet.

And as for the whole Glaucus, Glauceus, Glaucius thing, not all the FS ship names are spelled correctly. Sathanas is not right, the correct spelling is Satanas. Haven't you people played DEM?

That's funny. I didn't really have to play DEM to learn something about spelling words. What worries me is the pronunciation, names like Deimos and Orion are miserably spelled in FS2.
Not in my books.
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IMO you should edit the title of this thread ;)
Umm to what?

To the name of the model, for example?!? There are several models in this thread, they just all look like coffins.

The dead fleet.

And as for the whole Glaucus, Glauceus, Glaucius thing, not all the FS ship names are spelled correctly. Sathanas is not right, the correct spelling is Satanas. Haven't you people played DEM?

That's funny. I didn't really have to play DEM to learn something about spelling words. What worries me is the pronunciation, names like Deimos and Orion are miserably spelled in FS2.
Not in my books.
They all don't look like coffins ass-for-eyes.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2008, 10:06:16 pm by Hades »
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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No but their general shape is that of a coffin.

 

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No but their general shape is that of a coffin.
How in the hell is the Glaucus the shape of a coffin?
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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The point is, almost all of your ships look like big long rectangular things (you can see this even in ship like the Glaucus).  Perhaps you could add a little variety.

 

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The point is, almost all of your ships look like big long rectangular things (you can see this even in ship like the Glaucus).  Perhaps you could add a little variety.
:rolleyes:
Wouldn't that make the Deimos one? Wouldn't that make anyship that has a long rectangular shape?
Bull****.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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In a way ... but the thing about most of your ships is that they either look like a big coffin, or most of their hull is composed of various shapes arranged into regular geometric shapes (like squared and octagons) along the XY plane.  Plus, they are almost completely symmetrical top to bottom.  The Deimos does have that general shape, but it has some vertical variation, plus some interesting curves, and a couple of engines sticking out of the bottom (the engines are complex shapes, not just simple fin like things).  And that is just one ship.  There are plenty of ships in FS2 (like the Hecate) that look nothing like that (well, I suppose if you strip the Hecate down enough, it could be made to resemble a long box, but it has additions to it that actually contribute to the general shape, rather than looking like they were stuck on with duct tape).

 

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In a way ... but the thing about most of your ships is that they either look like a big coffin, or most of their hull is composed of various shapes arranged into regular geometric shapes (like squared and octagons) along the XY plane.  Plus, they are almost completely symmetrical top to bottom.  The Deimos does have that general shape, but it has some vertical variation, plus some interesting curves, and a couple of engines sticking out of the bottom (the engines are complex shapes, not just simple fin like things).  And that is just one ship.  There are plenty of ships in FS2 (like the Hecate) that look nothing like that (well, I suppose if you strip the Hecate down enough, it could be made to resemble a long box, but it has additions to it that actually contribute to the general shape, rather than looking like they were stuck on with duct tape).
Cronos, Glaucus, escape pod, another freighter, cruise liner are all not symmetrical top to bottom dumbass.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
----
<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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The Claucus is, except for that fin thing sticking out of the bottom.  Many others suffer from this same condition, others just look like boxes with minor to to bottom variation, or a combination of the two.  This was meant to be constructive criticism.  How did it turn into a flame war?

 

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The Claucus is, except for that fin thing sticking out of the bottom.  Many others suffer from this same condition, others just look like boxes with minor to to bottom variation, or a combination of the two.  This was meant to be constructive criticism.  How did it turn into a flame war?
What about the front nose section thingy, and the back engines get skinnier as they get to the bottom.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
----
<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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Well, I suppose.  But we're digressing from the point here (partially my fault for not being clear enough).  The point is that most of your ships follow a general long and rectangular shape.  I was only suggesting that you put some variation in your future models.

 

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Cronos, Glaucus, escape pod, another freighter, cruise liner are all not symmetrical top to bottom dumbass.
Wow there, that's not called for.
As he's said, it's intended to be constructive criticism, and he does have a point. Each ship is fine on its own - but if you look at them as a group you can definitely see a common shape between them with a couple of minor variations.

The smaller detail on them is all fine, along with the way the hull is formed, but it's the overall shape that is relatively simple. I suppose the best way to see what we mean is to compare the side on outline of any of these ships with just about any terran ship in FS. The retail ones may have far less greeblage and fewer polys, but their forms are much more complex.

If you are intentionally making them this way for any reason, that's fine - there's certainly nothing wrong with the idea. If you're after a wider and more varied fleet though, you'd be best to add more 'parts' to the overall form. Look at other ships for all the inspiration you could get in terms of features and shapes you could incorporate into your designs. :)
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Cronos, Glaucus, escape pod, another freighter, cruise liner are all not symmetrical top to bottom dumbass.
Wow there, that's not called for.
As he's said, it's intended to be constructive criticism, and he does have a point. Each ship is fine on its own - but if you look at them as a group you can definitely see a common shape between them with a couple of minor variations.

The smaller detail on them is all fine, along with the way the hull is formed, but it's the overall shape that is relatively simple. I suppose the best way to see what we mean is to compare the side on outline of any of these ships with just about any terran ship in FS. The retail ones may have far less greeblage and fewer polys, but their forms are much more complex.

If you are intentionally making them this way for any reason, that's fine - there's certainly nothing wrong with the idea. If you're after a wider and more varied fleet though, you'd be best to add more 'parts' to the overall form. Look at other ships for all the inspiration you could get in terms of features and shapes you could incorporate into your designs. :)
Eh sorry I Was tired. And they being this shape would make them easier to produce and cheaper. Besides who said military ships are supposed to be beautiful?
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
----
<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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And they being this shape would make them easier to produce and cheaper. Besides who said military ships are supposed to be beautiful?
The fact that the GTVA would spend so much on blue paint?

 

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And they being this shape would make them easier to produce and cheaper. Besides who said military ships are supposed to be beautiful?
The fact that the GTVA would spend so much on blue paint?
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And they being this shape would make them easier to produce and cheaper. Besides who said military ships are supposed to be beautiful?
The fact that the GTVA would spend so much on blue paint?
:wakka:
Blue paint isn't expensive :P.
I have a new pocket destroyer and a new cruiser but I will post pictures of the cruiser later.

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[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
----
<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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Nice.  But it looks more like a freighter or mega-transport to me.

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