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Offline BlackDove

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Old School Leviathan vs. Sathanas
There was a mission long ago, back in the days of PXO, which was just about what the title suggests. It would be a Leviathan kicking the ass of a Sathanas.

Basically, the Leviathan would jump in from behind it at a point where the rear beam cannon was useless (either that or it would destroy it with its initial salvo, don't exactly remember), and then would proceed to rape it from behind as the Sathanas tried to maneouver around into (any kind of) a firing position. The thing about it is the Levi would move accordingly, and basically evade hits or kill turrets that threaten it, and little by little, it took some time, but eventually the Sathanas would die.

Now, I don't know mission related crap, whether the beam on the Levi was adjusted to be stronger, or what kind of scripted events or commands were there, I just know it was ****ing cool, however the mission for some reason (I guess much like the Christmas missions, not enough usability) never ended up on enough people's computers and eventually evaporated somewhere along the line (along my line, it was when I had to do one of my formats).

I was wondering if

a) Someone maybe has the mission?

or the more realistic question

b) Would anyone be interested in making a mission in which a Leviathan ***** slaps the Sathanas? I can't, because I don't know how, which is why I'm asking here.

It's really the only mission I have ever wanted to "replay" or should we say, "see" again.

At any rate, I've posted, so now, it's out there.

 

Offline karajorma

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Re: Old School Leviathan vs. Sathanas
Don't have that mission. Ironically enough I did once make a mission to show a manouver the Sathanas could make to show how that wouldn't work though.
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Re: Old School Leviathan vs. Sathanas
I remember talking about this in another thread, I will fly the Leviathan if Alpha1 flies escort :p
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Offline Goober5000

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Re: Old School Leviathan vs. Sathanas
Are you thinking of Project Road Block?  That was a really fun mission that let you take out a Sathanas, but I don't remember if it had a Leviathan.

If not, do any of the missions on the mission archive page sound familiar?

 

Offline BlackDove

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Re: Old School Leviathan vs. Sathanas
I don't think I have the necessary constitution to go through that entire list.

The mission wasn't really a "mission" in the sense it had a detailed story, briefing, debriefing, etc. It was just a Sathanas in system, then a Levi jumps in, starts raping, destroys, and you jump out. Twas really just done to show that the weakest terran cap after the Fenris can still go and nuke the biggest baddest of them all.

Hardly think it's something that ever made the rounds to any website. I don't really even know how I got it, though it was most likely from whatever person created it when we all went in to see it the first time (we didn't have an exact amount of teams to play TvT and Coop was boring, so the dude wanted to show us that or something).

Twas just fun and something I rememebered I'd like to play again.

 
Re: Old School Leviathan vs. Sathanas
I saw it on the page- just hit CTRL+F and search for "Project Roadblock". Have fun.


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Project Road Block DOWNLOAD
Description:
The Shivans are advancing on Capella in massive numbers with gigantic juggernauts of nearly infinite power. The GTVA has no hope of holding this line of firepower, only a slim chance of being able to delay their arrival.


In one of the longest, hardest fought battles possible, you must hold the line against a Shivan juggernaut by testing the effectiveness of a new and unprecidented plan: Project Road Block.



More details and screenshots are posted at a small site in my FTP (Free To Prowl) space, http://web.archive.org/web/20010617150843/http://members.aol.com/mike011701/PRB.htm. The screenshots there are in 1024x768 JPG, so expect about a two minute download on 56k.


Update: rehashed ending and readme is included in the zip file.
 

If you place a Leviathan about 2000 m from the Sathans' flank, the Sath won't be able to turn to face it. I found that out a while ago while messing with FRED. It's an AI problem, not a tactical one. The Sathanas just circles the cruiser. If the AI was smart then it would just halt and pivot.

The Sath's flanks are ridiculously vulnerable as you've seen in A Monster in the Mist (Sobek pounds the Sathanas from the side, but the Sobek is too close and takes return fire and eventually has to warp out). The real threat is the hundreds of fighters they must carry. Also, the Shivans seem to like to use large formations of them, such as the Capella fleet, to provide mutual defense. So this strategy is more "gaming" than a workable plan, but it's cool.

If Project Road Block isn't it, then I can just give you the mission I made with the same thing.

 

Offline BlackDove

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Re: Old School Leviathan vs. Sathanas
Tried it, that wasn't it IIRC.

Sure, if you can upload your mission I'd like to get a crack at it.

 
Re: Old School Leviathan vs. Sathanas
Right, remind me.

All it is is a Levi positioned on the flank of a Sathanas... nothing special unless you just like turning on the time compression and watching the beams fire. In fact, you could make it four yourself in about 30 seconds. But I'll upload it when I get home.

 

Offline BlackDove

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Re: Old School Leviathan vs. Sathanas
Yeah pretty much, though I seem to remember some maneouvering, which was what made it look cool. The big bertha would try to turn so that its weapons can hit the Leviathan, but the little tick would move accordingly and stay on its ass, pounding it with its beam over and over, until the big one died. From the way they moved though (and they did move quite a bit from start to finish) I'd say there were more than a handful of waypoints to illustrate that the Levi can outmaneouver the Sath. The thing about it though, there were never BIG motions, like for example, when the Colossus is firing at the Sathanas in the main campaign, and once it gets I guess too close to it, it flings really quickly like a baseball bat to change course, which is what makes that little encounter fairly lame and unrealistic. The Sath didn't have the luxury of turning like that, nor did the Levi.

The whole thing though took like 5-10 minutes on Insane, so I don't know if the beam on the Levi was like a Colossus beam or any other strong beam, but that's more or less how it worked.

And yeah, to anyone who knows how to FRED, this should come very easy. I however, never figured out how to enable beam-free-all, so I gave it up early and noted that FRED wasn't meant for me.

 

Offline TrashMan

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Re: Old School Leviathan vs. Sathanas
Technicly, if teh attacking ship i slower than a Sathanas, it can kill it.
It jsut need to fly straight to get some distance, stop and turn.

It can't defeat a Orion at it's flank in another way (unless you include colission), but several Deimoses would seriously rape a Sath.
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Offline BlackDove

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Re: Old School Leviathan vs. Sathanas
There is already a fairly good multiplayer mission made by Cetanu IIRC where a Deimos rapes the Sathanas, but it does it in style from the front (Alpha Supermen are tasked with destroying the four beams however, obviously) right in the middle of its kraken like tentacles.

The real stretch here is to get the GTC Orff to do it, granted, armored a bit more.


 
Re: Old School Leviathan vs. Sathanas
Anything with a weapon that has a longer range than the Sath's anti-fighter beams can kill the ship. The Orff would be no problem; Fenrises have Fusion Mortars. Again, the only thing that keeps the ship viable is its whopping fighter complement and the support of other Saths. Every ship has weak spots, check the Colossus wiki page vet comments for some interesting notes on that.

Attached is the mission. It was released earlier and has a lot of extraneous stuff, but the battle you're looking for is there. Knock yourself out.

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Offline BlackDove

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Re: Old School Leviathan vs. Sathanas
I'm....trying to download it, but it's not ending up on my hard drive.

-edit- okay they appeared like an hour later.. very odd

I'll give it a try tommorow when I get time. Thanks for it.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2007, 06:01:02 pm by BlackDove »

 

Offline Hellstryker

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Re: Old School Leviathan vs. Sathanas
"and stay on its ass, pounding it with its beam over and over"  :wtf: