[Hades]

Spectacular work sir.

[Titan]

i already have glasses... maybe it was the lighting, but to me, it looked like a fenris tile... So, what was that from, anyway? that's not tombaugh

[IceyJones]

so only a small WP for you for showing that i´m still alive

[Titan]

ah.

[Vidmaster]

whoa

[FireCrack]

hi firecrack....

its the big mediaVP texture for the terran cockpit. there is a small side view of the helmet.....thats the texture i use, as it is the only helmet texture we have.... 

Sorry for taking so long to get back to you, I assue you mean the "half of a front view" rather than side view, as i see no side view in that texture. Icky tiny thing that is!

Anyways, in that case, would this help?



I've only done the jawpiece, as that seems to be the main area of concern....


It's a preety odd shape though, so it still seems "off", at least for me it does....


EDIT: tweaked the image a little

[Cobra]

I think that's all he needs, he's already done the face with a photograph of his own.

[IceyJones]

hi fire,

that might help a little bit already in order to remap the mask  . but i really meant the side view. its located in the lower half of the tex, near the centre:


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[FireCrack]

Ahhh... ow, so you're using that little bit, didn't even consider it, very bang-up-job...

This section of the image is a little brighter, i've dimmed the old image a bit here



Perhaps I should have made it larger yet, there is not a lot of texture space here....


Problem with this view is that shading on the side may end up looking odd when mirrored....

[IceyJones]

yeah....as i have to map the whole helmet, i need to use this little, tiny texture 
but you can make it as big as you want, as cinema can use textures of unlimited size 

and pls leave the brightness as it is, as i had tuned the whole material for this, otherwise i need to change it.....

and thanks for support !!!!

[Cobra]

We should totally use that for the mediavps.

When it's redone, of course.

[FireCrack]

I realy have no idea why I left the brightness as is, I know I lowered it because it made it easier to see, but then I must've gone crazy....   

Anyways, it's jsut as well, becasue as it turns out I used a lower res version of the source texture, this gave me a chnce to realise this...

[Vasudan Admiral]

Hmm, I missed that you were after these. From the long-dead descent network picture gallery:





They're not from as good an angle as the low res one used in the cockpit texture you have already, but they are higher res.

Oh, and there are some additional images here: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,50311.0.html Specifically stillcokpit01 and 02

Front on:


I think there used to be some of the pilot on his own which is where Nico got the texture for the cockpit as it is now. I have no idea where to find them though.

[IceyJones]

yeah....i tried to make caps from the intro also, but the problem is, that the camera was wide angle and the shape does not fit on the helmet if i just do plane-mapping. but maybe a good 2d-artist could do a highres texture based on these ref-pics, but using the shape of the small texture used in the mediaVPs?! and another problem is the green glow, projected on the helmet. the testure should be free of that, because in the cutscene i have a lighting inside the cockpit that lits the helmet....so we would have doubled the green :-/

i hope you know what i mean. my explanation is bad :-/

[Galemp]

The mapping can be adjusted by unwrapping the UVs, then the whole thing can be baked. Have a modeler do it for you.

And Photoshop can easily remove that glow. Voila...

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[IceyJones]

that would be great...!:cool:

i will prepare the helmet-mesh for you this evening.... 

[ShadowGorrath]

Hey, Icey, is Cinema4D hard to use? I mean, does a person need extreme knowledge to make renders/videos like this ?

[IceyJones]

it´s a long learning-process in general, to learn such a program. but imho cinema is one of the easy ones...

nevertheless i needed years to get to the point where i am now....

[Flipside]

I think most 3D Modelling programs work on cliffs and plateaus, learning to manipulate primitives properly (on a per-polygon basis) can be hard work when you start, but after a while you are practically building models from polygons upwards. After a while stuff like splines, nurbs and other stuff comes into play as well as procedural textures etc, and you find yourself climbing cliffs again

[IceyJones]

here´s the helmet mesh as 3ds

its the half helmet. i throw it into a mirror and then into a hypernurb with 2 subdevisions...

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