[Vasudan Admiral]

just open it with PCS2 RC2D and save it.. should have collision detection then

Oh I think you'll like the new version better.

[Delta_07]

Noticed another "holey" ship, the apollo. You soot it at the back and the shot passes by the ship. Wonder what happens to the pilot...

[Commander Zane]

Noticed another "holey" ship, the apollo. You soot it at the back and the shot passes by the ship. Wonder what happens to the pilot...

Where do you get the Apollo to show its textures?

[ARSPR]

and WTF are all these .tsb's files in mv_assets?

It's new model cache data needed because normal maps. Now each pof generates one ibx and one tsb.

Ask Taylor the full technical explanation.



OTOH PLEASE GUYS IF YOU DETECT A "HOLEY" MODEL OR ANY OTHER BUG, MANTIS IT. IF YOU FIX IT (THROUGH PCS2 OR WHATEVER), UPLOAD THE MODEL. (But if you fix it through PCS2 please wait till the FINAL release is out as Kazan asks in this thread).

(Won't you expect DaBrain to dig THROUGH all the thread looking for comments about bugs? Do you?)

[Vasudan Admiral]

From FSU Internal:

List of broken ships:

Aten (Nearly finished the rebuild)
Ravana (Needs serious ghost busting)
Apollo (Not looked into this yet, but it's reported in the main forum thread that it's ghosting)
Hecate Confirmed collision mesh errors. Moved to problem ships list.
Faustus Confirmed collision mesh errors. Moved to problem ships list.
Sobek Confirmed collision mesh errors. Moved to problem ships list.
Dis Confirmed collision mesh errors. Moved to problem ships list.
SAC3 Confirmed collision mesh errors. Moved to problem ships list.
Zephyrus Confirmed collision mesh errors. Moved to problem ships list. MASSIVE transparency errors as well.



List of possibly broken ships: (ie, stuff that was converted with the pof exporter. Most I think are fine, but I'll check them out.)

Ursa
Pegassus (Slight ghosting on the tip of the nose but otherwise ok)
Amazon
Satis
Anuket
Mara
Ares
Erinyes
Perseus
Mjolnir
Serapis
Medusa



List of incomplete HTL ships that *might* make it into this MVP set:

Iceni (Needs final conversion, lods and debris. Collision wise it's stable except for the big turrets for some bizzare reason)
Meson Bomb (Needs reconversion, lods...but probably not debris. Thoughts?)
Horus (Needs final conversion, lods and debris)
Valkyrie (Needs textures finished, then final conversion lods and debris)
Argo (I got no idea if it's even finished. :\ )

First round of ramming tests done. Most of them are solid.
Second and third round of tests done. Most of the second batch were NOT solid this time. :\

Does anyone have any more info on this stuff?

[Cobra]

Stratcomm fixed the Ravana. I bashed and shot the thing myself, there's only a few minor problems with "depressions" in the hull. I only found one (which was a good 2 months later ), but I think it's fine.

[Koth]

Is that fix in the 3.6.10 betavps?

EDIT: Because I have seen shots going through its hull as if it weren't even there.

[Cobra]

I don't know. Did the shots do any damage right after they went through the hull?

Nope, apparently it's not.

http://hlpstrat.googlepages.com/capital2s-01.pof

Fixed Ravana.

[Woolie Wool]

From FSU Internal:

List of broken ships:

Aten (Nearly finished the rebuild)
Ravana (Needs serious ghost busting)
Apollo (Not looked into this yet, but it's reported in the main forum thread that it's ghosting)
Hecate Confirmed collision mesh errors. Moved to problem ships list.
Faustus Confirmed collision mesh errors. Moved to problem ships list.
Sobek Confirmed collision mesh errors. Moved to problem ships list.
Dis Confirmed collision mesh errors. Moved to problem ships list.
SAC3 Confirmed collision mesh errors. Moved to problem ships list.
Zephyrus Confirmed collision mesh errors. Moved to problem ships list. MASSIVE transparency errors as well.



List of possibly broken ships: (ie, stuff that was converted with the pof exporter. Most I think are fine, but I'll check them out.)

Ursa
Pegassus (Slight ghosting on the tip of the nose but otherwise ok)
Amazon
Satis
Anuket
Mara
Ares
Erinyes
Perseus
Mjolnir
Serapis
Medusa



List of incomplete HTL ships that *might* make it into this MVP set:

Iceni (Needs final conversion, lods and debris. Collision wise it's stable except for the big turrets for some bizzare reason)
Meson Bomb (Needs reconversion, lods...but probably not debris. Thoughts?)
Horus (Needs final conversion, lods and debris)
Valkyrie (Needs textures finished, then final conversion lods and debris)
Argo (I got no idea if it's even finished. :\ )

First round of ramming tests done. Most of them are solid.
Second and third round of tests done. Most of the second batch were NOT solid this time. :\

Does anyone have any more info on this stuff?

IIRC Herra Tohtori's complete hi-res Valkyrie textures were posted in a thread in the FSU forum. If not, a copy of them is included in my Twist of Fate demo (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,52021.0.html). If you get them from the TOF demo, please credit Herra Tohtori, not me.

Also, Meson Bomb needs no debris. It's a bomb, and the explosion shockwave would certainly annihilate any remaining debris.

[Vasudan Admiral]

I'll check up on the Ravana when I get home - but if it's as you say it will still need a reconversion. Any hole at all in a capship is a big problem.

The Valkyrie textures aren't a problem - I'm redrawing them completely for the HTL version.

[Herra Tohtori]

The Valkyrie textures aren't a problem - I'm redrawing them completely for the HTL version.

Hooray, no more paper Valkyrie!

[Woolie Wool]

I'll check up on the Ravana when I get home - but if it's as you say it will still need a reconversion. Any hole at all in a capship is a big problem.

The Valkyrie textures aren't a problem - I'm redrawing them completely for the HTL version.

Does this HTL Valkyrie use the pieces from the HTL Uglies?

(I'd love a matching GTF Angel, but it would probably never happen)

[Vasudan Admiral]

Excellent - Stratcomms version appears to work fine.

Does this HTL Valkyrie use the pieces from the HTL Uglies?

(I'd love a matching GTF Angel, but it would probably never happen)

Yes and possibly - an angel won't happen any time soon though.

[Koth]

The ''VAsSingleEngine'' texture for the Typhon is missing.

[Nx]

Iceni (Needs final conversion, lods and debris. Collision wise it's stable except for the big turrets for some bizzare reason)

I have no idea why only those turrets have problems. The only difference between the small multiparts and the big multiparts is that the big ones don't have the bottom polygons and are not STL correct. But the octagonals, which don't have those polygons either, are also solid, and the big multiparts' barrels are STL correct and they aren't solid. In case I wasn't clear enough
I'll see if making the big multiparts STL correct helps, but I doubt it. So unless someone with more knowledge of the engine's collision detection code figures this one out, I can't fix it.

[Vasudan Admiral]

A reconversion should take care of that if just a resave in PCS2 doesn't - the lack of back faces isn't a problem for collision detection as long as the face normals are pointed the right way.

Anyway, if you want I can complete the Iceni in terms of lods, debris and POF data? Or do you want to do it yourself?

[Slime]

Whoa, nice job with the MVPs. Ever since I bought a widescreen monitor I've left the scene for a while (for obvious reasons...), but with this release I forced myself to use a 4:3 with full anistrophic. It's not that much worse, especially with these effects. The only problems I've encountered are the already-reported missing beamglows (not that big of a deal, using old ones for now) and slight pauses when loading new effects with a 8800 GT (I've had this a few times earlier, depends on the build it seems). I've already fallen in love with the shivan shield effects...

[Kazan]

btw what is with the engine glows being missing?

[ARSPR]

btw what is with the engine glows being missing?

Are you using latest Taylor's XT builds?

If the answer is yes, you are seeing a bug. (But in F3 lab you DO see the thrusters...)

This bug seems triggered by the

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$ThrustAnims:
+Pri_Normal:            <none>
+Pri_Afterburn:         <none>entries in mv_effects-sdf.tbm which just should disable the original polied thrusters. But the game doesn't like <none> because of some reason.

[Slime]

By the way, what's the filename for the blue anti-fighter beamglow (for terrans and vasudans)? As I said, I'm overriding the ones not working with older versions until DaBrain or someone gets a fix going.