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Offline Wanderer

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
As of now there are no plans for fixes or patches for the beta release. Until we get the stuff ready you can either make your own fixes (which we most likely wont be using in the final release), or move back to earlier set of mediavp files.

Are you using latest Taylor's XT builds?
XT builds are experimental and problems with them are not our fault and therefore as for now there is no intention to fix this.
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Offline ARSPR

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
Are you using latest Taylor's XT builds?
XT builds are experimental and problems with them are not our fault and therefore as for now there is no intention to fix this.

 :confused:

 :wtf:

 :eek2:

I think you haven't got me right.

I KNOW that Xt builds are experimental, I know there's no data bug and I've told Taylor about this issue sometime ago... I'm neither complaining in any way about bugs in experimental builds (or even regular builds), nor asking for an immediate fix. I just point out (or mantis) the bugs I see and I wait till the coders fix them. I never demand a fix.

But as Taylor is likely to commit his code enhancements sooner or later, he need testers and he needs to know what happens with his builds.

And also XT builds are pretty extended, mainly because of their normal mapping support, so some people may suffer these bugs too. Of course, they should know that, when they use these builds, they are likely to have more troubles than usually. But nevertheless they are free to ask about any possible weird behaviour they see.
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Offline Wanderer

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
Ah... Well... Then i'm sorry. And i didn't even mean that as a direct answer to you but more as a generic answer.
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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
So will we be seeing these in Turey's installer anytime soon? Or are they already there?
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
So will we be seeing these in Turey's installer anytime soon? Or are they already there?
Once these and the 3.6.10 build are both finals.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

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14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
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22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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Offline Kazan

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
btw what is with the engine glows being missing?
Are you using latest Taylor's XT builds?

If the answer is yes, you are seeing a bug. (But in F3 lab you DO see the thrusters...)

This bug seems triggered by the
Code: [Select]
$ThrustAnims:
+Pri_Normal:            <none>
+Pri_Afterburn:         <none>
entries in mv_effects-sdf.tbm which just should disable the original polied thrusters. But the game doesn't like <none> because of some reason.

i dunno if i would call that a bug.. more like the tables are not setup very clever
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Offline Wanderer

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
i dunno if i would call that a bug.. more like the tables are not setup very clever
Hmm... how exactly would you do it?
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Offline ARSPR

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
i dunno if i would call that a bug.. more like the tables are not setup very clever
No, Kazan, it's a bug for sure. I just copied part of mv_effects-sdf.tbm which should work flawlessly like it does with fsopen 3.6.9. The table syntax is OK. It's something inside the build. The <none> word screws up the in-game thrusters but not F3 ones. :confused: :confused:

(OTOH this is going offtopic...)
IF YOU HAVE TROUBLES WITH FS2:
  • Please, please, please, READ and UNDERSTAND the sticky threads in FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support board.
    A lot of people are willing to help you, but, as anyone can understand, seeing the very same "issues" repeated again and again can become quite depressing. Please, spend a bit of time trying to solve the issue by yourself.
    (Lobo deserves a monument).
  • Then, if you aren't still able to solve your issue, feel free to ask for help in that same board.
    FYI, most of the troubles are caused by wrong mod installations which lead to either missing data or undesired cross-effects between them. Always follow the mod installation instructions and keep a clean FS2 installation as explained in the sticky threads. Two additional links about how the game handles game data:
  • If you think that you've discovered a bug, mantis it.
    Provide as much info as you can, and try to narrow it down. A lonely "FS2 doesn't work" is not a good report.

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Offline Kazan

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
<none> for a thruster glow means no thruster glow - that's not an engine bug, that's the engine working as intended AFAIK (or was <none> there supposed to fall back to species default and i didn't know?)
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Offline Wanderer

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
The '<none>' in that particular field prevents the rendering of the modeled thruster cone animation. So it should still render the three remaining glows.
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Offline Kazan

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
ah.. then the flag is flipped because i'm getting cones but not glows :D

oh.. all ships with shields should be opened+saved with PCS 2.0.1 to get SLDC trees
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Offline Turambar

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
will the fun tidbits from the Stellar Enhancements thread be in here?

it is nice to see flares on stars and missiles, and if they are kept low-key, i think they could be used well on other things too, like engines and even powerful weapons (maybe making capship glob turrets seem slightly more threatening).
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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
Engine light flares, now that would be cool.

 

Offline Admiral Nelson

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
will the fun tidbits from the Stellar Enhancements thread be in here?

Yes they will.  Hopefully M87 will return to us again so that I may also include them in FS1 and other prominent campaigns that already use Lightspeed's nebulae.
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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
is the german mirror still the english mediavps?
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
 :lol: No, you'll get German graphics if you download from that mirror.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Offline feltoar

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
This might be a dumb question, but are the links on the first page still to the absolute latest public releases for the betas?

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
 :nervous: Yes?
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline colecampbell666

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
My GPU is only SM2.0, and I'm pretty sure I don't have OGL2.0, what will happen if I try to run normal maps etc?
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

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Re: RELEASE - MediaVP 3.6.10 Beta version
You won't get them. :P
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