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Offline karajorma

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Re: Anti-Americanism - discussion
While I don't think we as Americans should be particularly arrogant, I don't think we need Europe and Australia telling us how to run our society.

Given America is continually telling everyone else how they should run theirs.....
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Hey, GB, what' has this got to do with a stereotypical idoit?

He's using himself as an example to prove that the stereotype isn't true.

While I don't think we as Americans should be particularly arrogant, I don't think we need Europe and Australia telling us how to run our society.

Given America is continually telling everyone else how they should run theirs.....

Yea, that is a true and unfortunate fact :( But then, everyone else tells Americans what to do with their society, so really it's just a case of people all across the board thinking their way of life is best.

 

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Oh yeah... I forgot that first post of mine... It was supposed to be outrageus enought that people understand it's a joke and not take it seriously. But I guess nothing is clear in internet without using ****load of smilies. Oh well, lesson learned to be forgetten again. Well since it's a joke that means I won't ever rule the world and thus all americans have no need to fear me. So sizzler can relax. Really, it's all right now...

I guess this says how much you pay attention to HLP.
I don't pay that much attention to nationatilies in here. People are from all over the world and some don't even disclose their origins. So I don't bother keeping track of them all. My wild guess is that Yanks are a minority here anyway.
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but I most certainly am anti-idiocy (you can imagine the daily mental distress this causes me). And since the states supply the world with much of her entertainment and also enforces its laws, views and culture, often by force, people around the globe are exposed to considerable amount of american idiocy. Often more than their own native brand of peculiarity (is that a word?).

Agreeable, yet as UT stated, that's American policies, not the actual population.
So these policies now cover entertainment as well? There are a lot of american TV programs shown around the globe. All kinds of them. And news olse cover other things than just politics. I did not mix those.

As for the rest. A couple of nice dissections of my post that enable focus on one sentence while ignoring the rest.
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So you're saying now that the US wants to destroy the world? And a secular state would make that more likely/much worse than what we have now, don't you think?
A secular state is exactly what the US needs to return to being.  Not to do so violates church and state separation.  The integration of one into the other is always a bad thing.  The Church of England, the Spanish Inquisition, and Jihadist methodology is proof enough of that.
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So you're saying now that the US wants to destroy the world? And a secular state would make that more likely/much worse than what we have now, don't you think?
A secular state is exactly what the US needs to return to being.  Not to do so violates church and state separation.  The integration of one into the other is always a bad thing.  The Church of England, the Spanish Inquisition, and Jihadist methodology is proof enough of that.

My bad, I thought secular meant religious run, apparently it's the opposite :p


 

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Oh yeah... I forgot that first post of mine... It was supposed to be outrageus enought that people understand it's a joke and not take it seriously. But I guess nothing is clear in internet without using ****load of smilies. Oh well, lesson learned to be forgetten again. Well since it's a joke that means I won't ever rule the world and thus all americans have no need to fear me. So sizzler can relax. Really, it's all right now...

I guess this says how much you pay attention to HLP.
I don't pay that much attention to nationatilies in here. People are from all over the world and some don't even disclose their origins. So I don't bother keeping track of them all. My wild guess is that Yanks are a minority here anyway.
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but I most certainly am anti-idiocy (you can imagine the daily mental distress this causes me). And since the states supply the world with much of her entertainment and also enforces its laws, views and culture, often by force, people around the globe are exposed to considerable amount of american idiocy. Often more than their own native brand of peculiarity (is that a word?).

Agreeable, yet as UT stated, that's American policies, not the actual population.
So these policies now cover entertainment as well? There are a lot of american TV programs shown around the globe. All kinds of them. And news olse cover other things than just politics. I did not mix those.

As for the rest. A couple of nice dissections of my post that enable focus on one sentence while ignoring the rest.

1) Yes, I'm sure no one really thought that you would kill all Americans, but you'd really need to specify that you were joking that you thought all Americans were idiots. (which in a way, you did, but then you went on to say things otherwise) I'm sure no one doubts that there isn't enough hating of Americans on this forum. (just look a this thread for example. If no one hated America, then this thread wouldn't exist)

2) Okay, sure reasonable enough. For future reference.

3) US entertainment, IMHO, represents the population of the US even worse. I for one, barely watch any TV at all. The TV that I do watch, isn't TV, just episodes of canceled TV shows on my computer. And of the people who do watch TV, not everyone watches everything. And even though things like Family Guy are incredibly dumb, watching them doesn't make you an idiot. Sorry for the lack of clarity in that post, but I guess I meant to say that entertainment represents the US about as little as government policies.

4) I didn't respond to the rest of your previous post for the same reason that you did not respond to mine.

 

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The President of my country is an idiot too....and a liar of a unprecedented caliber..He would make Regan and Bush look like angels. And yet he is still in power.

Fine, Croatia wins the prize for second dumbest country on Earth. Congratulations on a well run campaign. It's taken me years but I finally figured out what you were up to.

That means you can stop now. :p
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Oh, the irony...
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The interesting part is, I have quite literally walked through the door after a week away in Glasgow, and this was the first thread that was visible.

So there's more irony at play than even that...

 

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I'm risking a warning here, but here goes:

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My bad, I thought secular meant religious run, apparently it's the opposite

This has got to be the funniest and the most ironic sentence (given the context) I have read here in recent times - at least for three different reasons!

Considered making it my new signature, but the old one is still more generally applicable.

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Maybe there should a thread called like "I hate these countries" where everyone could bash any country they happen to like (pun intended). Probably a bad idea, though. There has to be people who could not take it as humor.

But wait, then I would need to insult every other country on Earth.

EDIT: Wait a second, I thought Scuddie is from Great Britain, since if memory serves that's one of their military slang words.

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The interesting part is, I have quite literally walked through the door after a week away in Glasgow, and this was the first thread that was visible.

So there's more irony at play than even that...

Yeah. This is all being done on the internet, which is not only at its core wholly an invention of the US (for the US military, no less), but one of the biggest literal expressions of the phrase "Freedom of speech" that was ever known to mankind.
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And this is being done by a Mod who has just had an 11 hour coach  journey and, within five minutes of signing on to this site, is dragged into this discussion for some indiscernible reason.

I'm tired, I have a headache, and I'm not quite certain what you are implying by your original post.

 

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Ahh.

The irony is the American patriotism in the coloring and order of the names in the who's online field for a patently anti-patriotic thread.
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Aha! Now I get it, thanks, sorry if I seem a bit snappish, as I say, 11hours on a coach doesn't do wonders for my attention span or my temper :)

 

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Oh, and on the actual subject matter, there are only 32 Boroughs in London, but I bet you couldn't find a single Londoner on the Street that could name them all, and they aren't even as numerous as the US States.

 

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American and proud of it. Most of us hate Bush, and aren't too happy with his war. That said, I am joining the Marines. So basically, if your perception of America is only from the media, and you've never been here, and you STILL hate us on 'general principle,' then go to hell.

Personally, I think England is a failed police state which punishes innocents and rewards criminals.
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To a degree, you are correct, though I will point out that there is a massive contradiction in that sentence.

What we are is a wannabe Police State that didn't build enough jails to be effective, so what we turned into was a society that hunts down your every crime and then lacks the power to do anything about it.

 

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I'm risking a warning here, but here goes:

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My bad, I thought secular meant religious run, apparently it's the opposite

This has got to be the funniest and the most ironic sentence (given the context) I have read here in recent times - at least for three different reasons!

Considered making it my new signature, but the old one is still more generally applicable.

Mika

Ok...I don't get why that's so funny but have fun :p

 

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My view is pretty mutch simple in this debate; I do not call an enitre nation idiots unless proven otherwise. Like most of you stated, I think the whole Anit-anericanisam is a wee bit overstated. If you ask any of the american haters they will tell you that hate Bush an his government and not the people.
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