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Offline Androgeos Exeunt

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The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
Hey, all. I just got out of the mission "Secrets Revealed", and I spotted a colossal inconsistency with the GTI Jotunheim. How can it spew 300+ fighters (which it does do if you make it invulnerable and park one click away from the Fighterbay, forcing your primary weapon to SSLBeam and firing away)? The GTI can't have that many fighters stashed in an Arcadia! In doing so, I also crashed the game.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
I believe they're remaking Silent Threat to fix errors just like that. The project is called Silent Threat: Reborn.

 

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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
I believe they're remaking Silent Threat to fix errors just like that. The project is called Silent Threat: Reborn.

I know. I'm just pointing it out...although I think they've already found it long ago... :nervous:
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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
Simple. Because it's not supposed to invulnerable, and your not supposed to have a SSLBeam on your ship :P. So when you break the rules of the universe, more become broken. It's the laws of God powers :P.

Seriously though, since you obviously used cheats (or FRED?) you messed with the game, so it was supposed to be destroyed (I'm assuming so, since i haven't played silent threat in years, i barely remember that mission) before you realized it had so many fighters.
Fun while it lasted.

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Offline Snail

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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
Will STR use a spiffy looking Jotunheim, or will it look like a normal Arcadia?

 

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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
Both.

 

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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
Uhh that means normal for retail and spiffy for SCP, yes?

 

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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
It means it'll use a normal Arcadia with extra ships and pylons added around it.

 
Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
No shivan stuff?

 

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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
He didn't say that.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
I think the Hades should have had that Shivan Reskin Job that someone made and also have the other 4 eninges from the Hades Mk2
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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
I think the Hades should have had that Shivan Reskin Job that someone made and also have the other 4 eninges from the Hades Mk2

I'm against the reskin but the one with the 66 turrets would be nice.

 

Offline terran_emperor

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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
Well, prehaps, the Hades could grow over time. It stars out with the Terran Skinjob and mostly Terran weapons (apart from the Lucifer Beams). Then over time the ship evolves, eventually growing that Shivan skinjob and completly shivan weapons
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Offline Snail

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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
That would be stupid IMO.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
I wouldn't say stupid, but... strange. Not usual. That'd imply that the Shivans use some kind of organic technology (oh, the clichés), which has never been implied in either FS1, ST or FS2.

Or maybe the emperor dude meant that the GTI were doing constant upgrades on it, which again sounds unlikely, since building and modifying ships shouldn't be a quick and easy operation.
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Offline terran_emperor

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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
I don't know. The shivans vessels have always stuck me as somewhat techno-organic. I mean lookat the was the Sathanas Arms move in that FS2 cutscene. As far as i could tell...it looked more organic than mechanical. I may start a thread on this. We know so little about the shivans that i think them having Techno-organic tech adds to their mystique.
I mean, from the "boarding party" cutscene, they struck me as what HR Geiger's famous alien might be like if they developed technology

But I think that it would add something to the mix if you actually had a time limit to destroy the Hades. ie before it develops Lucifer shields

You see in that mission, the Hades alway struck me as being unfinished.

But beyond my opinion of the Hades and Shivan Tech, It would be nice to wee some other hybrids at jotunheim, like the enemy GTI fighters have Shivan weapons. Use of shivan fighters with terran weapons, cruisers with shivan Laser Turrets. That though of thing.
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
I don't know. The shivans vessels have always stuck me as somewhat organic. I mean lookat the was the Sathanas Arms move in that FS2 cutscene. As far as i could tell...it looked more organic than mechanical.
Maybe. The visual of Shivan ships might hint slightly towards organic tech, but otherwise there is nothing implying it. Opinion question.

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the Hades alway struck me as being unfinished.
The whole goddamn Silent Threat always struck me as being unfinished.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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Offline terran_emperor

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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
I now what you mean. Silent threat could have used more time in planning and development.

Here's looking to ST:R for that unforfilled potential to be forfilled
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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
I don't think that this "evolving Hades" thing is a particularly good idea for something like STR, but it may be good for something else Post-Capella. And the Hades looks decidedly Terran with its boxy shape, if this evolving Hades idea ever gets done then it shouldn't even use the Hades, or modify the shape to make it more rounded.

 

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Re: The GTI Jotunheim's "larger-than-FRED-sized" Fighterbay
I'm against the reskin but the one with the 66 turrets would be nice.

Amazing how useful models from defunct projects can be, really. :D
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