[wolfen]

I wiped the Hard drive an installed windows xp, hot home basic for Christmas, the drivers from intel and FS runs like it used to before I screwed up and bought a vista computer.

[haloboy100]

a hard drive wipe and re-installation of XP (not vista, cause it sucks) will fix anything nowadays.

er, i mean, congrats

[Hellbender]

Feel sorry that you couldn't fix your problem with Vista. Have had few issues with it that were not much easier to fix than XP.

Been running the same installation on this system since February of last year without a single major issue. Cannot say the same for that gob of unstable irritation that is XP.

Of course, I watched the same sort of amusing retro purist bashing when XP began to replace 98/Millenium and 2000.

[Polpolion]

Wiping a hard drive is not what I would call "quick", neither is reinstalling windows.

[captain-custard]

mmmm , i just change drives, lol its quicker 1 drive 1 system, no hassles

except the letters from the bank that is

 


andi aka captain custard

[WMCoolmon]

I wiped the Hard drive an installed windows xp, hot home basic for Christmas, the drivers from intel and FS runs like it used to before I screwed up and bought a vista computer.

There's actually quite a few advantages to upgrading from Windows Vista to Windows XP.

[haloboy100]

wouldn't that be downgrading if your comming from vista to XP?

EDIT after reading above link: This guy talks about XP like it came after vista. IS that a joke or does he have the two mixed up?

[Jeff Vader]

XP is a bit less buggy than Vista. XP is more reliable than Vista. XP is easier to use than Vista. Therefore, moving from Vista to XP is upgrading. Touché.

[wolfen]

wouldn't that be downgrading if your comming from vista to XP?

EDIT after reading above link: This guy talks about XP like it came after vista. IS that a joke or does he have the two mixed up?

The guy at Best buy argued with me for 2 hours that going back to xp as a downgrade, technically it is. but then technically a helicopter can't fly too.
Basically for those of us that want to be able to use a computer, uninstalling what doesn't work, and installing what does work, is a upgrade any way you look at it.

[wolfen]

Feel sorry that you couldn't fix your problem with Vista. Have had few issues with it that were not much easier to fix than XP.

Been running the same installation on this system since February of last year without a single major issue. Cannot say the same for that gob of unstable irritation that is XP.

Of course, I watched the same sort of amusing retro purist bashing when XP began to replace 98/Millenium and 2000.

I have a close friend that would agree totally with you, he bought the same computer I have with the same operating system I had, and he has not had any problems at all, in fact he's running as good as I am with vista, Its not every vista, some are good some are worthless, I guess it depends on how awake Leroy was when he copied the master disk into all those other disks

[Hellstryker]

No, it depends on what you plan to do with the OS. XP is good for gaming and modding and doing anything illegal. windows vista is not, and therefor, in my book, is a PoS

[karajorma]

Of course, I watched the same sort of amusing retro purist bashing when XP began to replace 98/Millenium and 2000.

That's cause historically no MS OS has been worth the hassle of installing until after the release of a couple of upgrades for it. Some of them having been worth the hassle even after patching *cough*Windows ME*cough*

I wouldn't have installed XP over 2k when it first came out same as I wouldn't install Vista as my main OS (I might install it on another drive just to see how bad it is for myself).

The only exception I can think of is 2k over ME. But that's cause going back to using punch cards is better than Win ME.

[haloboy100]

yeah, ME sucked.

[Polpolion]

IIRC, the only reason I didn't like 2000 was because I couldn't play GTA 2 on it, and by the time I tried to play it on XP, they had made a patch and released it for free. And since I was 12 or 13 or something I was like "oMg! Xp EqUaLs YaY!! 2K EqUaLs NaY!! <insert 7 smilies here>"

[Hellbender]

I've worked with Vista since it was released. Same with XP. I've spent a great many hours working and gaming on both. Vista is easily the better, more stable system. For older hardware, yes, XP is your best bet. Vista does have steeper requirements. If your hardware is more than two years old, upgrading is iffy.

Vista has several beneficial qualities over XP, number one is that it is much more stable. Another is that it's OS compatibility modes work 90% of the time. XP it's maybe 30%.

Vista's interface is a lot easier to use if you take the ten minutes required to learn it than XP. Going back to an older OS is very cumbersome.

It's hardware and software installation is a lot less of a hassel as well.

You can hold your breath for a service pack update, but I wouldn't. If one is coming at all I doubt it will be very soon unless it is a bunch of superficial updates combined to a "service pack".

[wolfen]

OK your saying that Vista is more stable, now I know for sure that this vista disk my coffee cup is sitting on is totally screwed up cause nothing worked in any mode on it, anything that was vista certified, including the M/S mouse I paid $40 for. In fact Microsoft mouse was the straw that broke the camels back. That and the weekly reloads. I never had any gaming problems with vista. Anybody with vista and no problems has my congrats, good on ya hellbender, I hope vista runs perfect for you for years, and I say that with all honestly.

As for XP, I'm one of the ones that has never had any problems at all with it, not even in the beginning when it was brand new, and believe me I remember everybody complaining about how much better win 98se was than xp. Maybe its the way I use it and what I use it for, I don't run any M/S security so I don't need that stuff, I've had VLC media player since it first came out, love it hate WMP' constant need for a codec ( no problems with wmp in xp yet since the reload) 

[jr2]

You can hold your breath for a service pack update, but I wouldn't. If one is coming at all I doubt it will be very soon unless it is a bunch of superficial updates combined to a "service pack".

XP SP3 will come out about the same time as Vista SP1 - and the beta release of XP SP3 seems to improve performance... read this, there's other useful info here too (like how to slim down your XP install   )

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139911-c,xp/article.html

Download:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3-19990518/cabpool/windowsxp-kb936929-sp3-x86-enu_a2ca583dedcd86837796111a632efa29a23f4cc0.exe

[wolfen]

Yea Its about time for a SP 3 for XP, but I have to disagree with that article's statement of "aging desktop OS" The only reason XP is mot on top of the M/S food chain anymore is that theres 5 or 6 different Vista out there. And I find it amusing that vista already needs a service pask LOL Guess the hackers found a way into the most secure system made after all. And XP is gonna be Vista's biggest rival for a long time, just because M/S doesn't support an O/S anymore doesn't mean its now junk, I know people here with business's running windows 98se and the medical field here uses either 2000, of NT.

For now, for me XP rules, If vista sp1 actually fixes stuff I might reinstall it, overwriting xp with vista will be a snap since this computer is set up for both now.

[Dysko]

This summer I bought a laptop, and guess what... there was Vista on it. I decided to give Vista a chance, after all I needed the laptop for university works, not for gaming.

The first thing I did was deactivating the User Account Control. It asked for permission even when I had to defecate!

The dealer told me that with Vista, the oldest Office you can install is Office 2003 not pirated. False. I installed a cracked copy of Office 2001 I downloaded Open Office in case of sudden crashes, though.

When I started uni, I finally got a list of programs I needed. Guess what... none of them worked with Vista (actually, more recent versions of these programs run on Vista, but I can't have them for free since uni owns academic licenses only for older versions...)
I tried to format the laptop in any way, and finally, after 3 months, I succeded. Now with XP SP2 everything works just fine.

[wolfen]

Theres a lot of stuff that doesn't work with vista, most of it is hardware, or software that runs hardware.