[FUBAR-BDHR]

Better grab a beer or 12 for this it's a long one.   

First lets start with my subspace theory.  Probably everyone has seen the demonstration of wormhole theory using a piece of paper with two dots on it.  Shortest distance is a straight line until the piece of paper is bent and a pencil shoved through the points.  Well my subspace theory is kind of along the same lines but more extravagant.  I like to think of it as taking 2 pieces of paper and stapling or gluing the edges.  Now crumble that piece of paper up.  That mess you just made is our galaxy.  Anyplace the crumbled up paper touches itself is where a subspace node exists.  Now make a few dozen of those wadded up pieces of paper and toss them in the trash.  Wherever each of those wads (galaxy) touches another wad (galaxy) you have a node capable of going to another galaxy.  The empty space that exists between the papers an between the wads is subspace.  While we only know how to poke that proverbial pencil through the points at the dots (jump nodes) subspace is always there.  Now instead of a pencil make it a straw.  The tunnel we see in FS is that straw.  While we are unable to travel beyond that corridor what's to say something else can't.

Now on to my normal space / normal subspace / jumpnode travel theory.  I like to think of it kind of like a pond.  Normal space travel is kind of like trying to throw a rock across the pond.  It works but takes a lot of effort and bad things can happen like the rock slipping, going off target, or falling short.  Also if you increase the size of that pond to lake then it becomes extremely difficult to throw that rock that far and more things are likely to go wrong.  Now instead of throwing the rock you skip it.  Once you learn how to skip that rock it goes much farther with less energy.  Again things can still go wrong but you can make it across the lake.  This skipping is the normal subspace travel.  You don't actually go all the way into subspace but skip along the surface.  Enough skips and you can make it across a sea but again the more skips the more energy and more things that can go wrong.  Since the sea is large enough it goes over the horizon and is curved.  Curve it enough and it resembles the piece of paper.  Put a tunnel through the sea that is now curved almost back on itself and you could easily toss the rock through the tunnel to the other side.  A jumpnode acts like that tunnel.

While the Ancients started off throwing themselves out into space they were only able to explore their galaxy buy hitting nearby islands, finding more rocks, and tossing them to other close islands.  Later when the found subspace they were able to skip from system to system bypassing some islands but still not having a quick and reliable travel method.  Once nodes were discovered they not only found that tunnel to other systems but from some of those systems to other galaxies.

Now the Shivans are a level above that.  Not only knowing how to throw, skip, and tunnel their way across the galaxy but they can also swim in the subspace ocean.  Not only do they swim in that ocean but that is their natural environment.  Has it always been?  Maybe.  I think that somewhere in their history something went wrong. Maybe they weren't native to subspace.  Maybe somewhere there was a race that decided that the go fast or not at all theory of space travel was the way to go.  They decided not to leave their system until they had a way to do it fast.  Finding subspace but not knowing how to use it they screwed up and opened a window into subspace on their own planet.  The planet (and maybe the entire system) was pulled into subspace wiping out most life.  Their equivalent of the cockroach survived even on that devastated planet in subspace and evolved into what we know today as the Shivans.  As they developed they used up the resources of that planet.  Even though evolved they still need material from normal space where their ancestors evolved from.  Kind of the way we still need salt since we originated from the sea. Where can you find the most basic elements?  Stars of course.  They mine this material directly from the stars themselves. 

Maybe the Sathanas fleet was this sort of mining operation.  Did something go wrong?  Maybe.  Was the loss of a few ships to secure the elements needed to keep their home world going a calculated move?  Again maybe.  Maybe they were trying to pull the star into subspace.  Maybe their start is dying and they were trying to secure a replacement.  Maybe they just needed the material to build more ships.  Loss of a few dozen for the material to build millions.  Maybe they needed to feed off of the star before launching an offensive.  A few too many ships snacking and the star destabilized resulting in the supernova.

As far as why the Shivans attack.  Well maybe they just see subspace as their home and we are invaders.  Maybe our use of subspace hurts them in some way.  Or maybe they just follow races that come into subspace back to normal space because they know beings such as us live near stars that are suitable for feeding on or transport into subspace.

[Snail]

Interesting theory. But it doesn't explain such things as no FS1 beams, etc.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Maybe they never needed beam weapons on their smaller ships before.  We might have been the first ones to get past their shields and give them a bloody nose.

[TrashMan]

Interresting...Shivass are mutated coackroaches who were drawn to live into subspace by a experiment gone wrong....

Interesting..

Just one thing..galaxies don't touch really....

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Actually some do.  Ours will collide with Andromeda some day. 

Anyway that wasn't the point wormhole aren't created by bending a piece of paper and sticking a pencil through either.  I was using imagery to explain my theory.  Basically you can only jump between galaxies from neighboring galaxies where their subspace tides intersect. 

[TrashMan]

not as a general rule they don't.... in fact, they are moving apart

[Retsof]

Has anybody wondered why there are so many Shivan/Capella theories popping up?

[eliex]

 It's the *unknown* :V:  .     .     .   ending. 

[Hades]

Actually some do.  Ours will collide with Andromeda some day. 

not as a general rule they don't.... in fact, they are moving apart

The Milky Way and Andromeda are going to collide, it is on the History channel.

[Dark Hunter]

Just one thing..galaxies don't touch really....

Oh yes they do.

Has anybody wondered why there are so many Shivan/Capella theories popping up?

Probably cause there was a recent one that got a lot of attention that got everybody thinking.

[terran_emperor]

which one was that?

He doesn't mean that the galaxies are literally touching,

He means where paper touches paper represents jump nodes.

You crumple piece of paper A. A=Milky Way. Where A touches itself, represents Jump nodes within our galaxy ie, Sol-Delta Serpentis, Vega-Capella, etc.

Throw paper A into a bin with pieces B-Z
Where Piece A touches the other pieces represents intergalactic jump nodes between the Galaxies - ie places where A touches B = jump nodes between the Milky Way and M33 - the Triangulum Galaxy

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Yep that's exactly what I am theorizing and the method I was using to do it.  Trashman just made a statement that was incorrect and I had to state so. After all Hell Raising is the second half of the BDHR's duties.   

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Had a thought this morning.  You know the Capella can't be the Capella we know because there is only one star type arguments.  Maybe there is only one start because the Shivans have already pulled the others into subspace.  They were working on the last one when they were rushed by the battle and that resulted in them making the mistake resulting in the supernova.

[Retsof]

And we never noticed the other Capella stars just dissapearing? 

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Depends on how far away the nearest outpost was.  If it happened over a few weeks we might not have. 

Just checked the Wiki.  Capella is listed as a Binary system.  So why is there only one star in the last mission?

[karajorma]

Probably cause whoever wrote the wiki entry got it very wrong. Capella is a quaternary system in real life.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Yea I knew it had more than 2 in real life.  Didn't realize that it had two sets of binary stars though.  My theory was that sometime between now and FS2 the other 2 disappeared.  Then in the last mission only one was left.  Of course theory B is that since the other 2 stars are a light year away they aren't actually in the Capella system.  And how would command explain the loss of 2 stars?  Someone looking through those telescopes back in the 20th century messed up. 

[karajorma]

That's not as implausible as it sounds. If a war or something lead to a great leap in technology but keep the Terrans busy during that time they might simply look at Capella now and write

"In the early days of Astronomy scientists believed that Capella consisted of a binary pair of yellow stars. We now know this to be false...."

The idea that one of the stars had existed and disappeared would be considered more implausible than it simply being some kind of instrumentation error.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Had another interesting thought about subspace today.  Maybe the whole reason for the use of jump nodes is that we can't actually travel in subspace.  We have to create an artificial conduit through subspace then use that for travel.  It would explain the tunnel type effect.  The "tunnel" is a temporary normal space corridor through subspace.   It allows the physics of normal space to work while in transit between the two nodes.  Basically you can maneuver and fight just like if you were in regular space because you are still in normal space. 

I know what about the shields not working.  Maybe it has nothing to do with subspace travel but the energy it takes to open the "tunnel"  That energy disrupts or drains the shields. 

Another thought just hit me as I was speculating the shield disruption.  Maybe the "tunnel" is actually some form of shield.  Could be that is why the Shivans have shields in the first place.  If they are native to subspace then they would naturally have the ability to travel there.  The shield is that natural ability when used in normal space. 

[Jeff Vader]

I know what about the shields not working.  Maybe it has nothing to do with subspace travel but the energy it takes to open the "tunnel"  That energy disrupts or drains the shields. 

As you know, our shield systems do not work in subspace.

I counter that particular part of your theory with this line. They specifically say that the shields do not work in subspace. If it was a matter of energy consumption, surely they would have said so.