[Harbinger of DOOM]

Blegh, they'd just pump us full of nukes..... assuming they've had a MASSIVE arms build-up similar to the Cold War, that is.

[Snail]

Blegh, they'd just pump us full of nukes..... assuming they've had a MASSIVE arms build-up similar to the Cold War, that is.

Considering the dynamics of the game (and also going on the theory that all speeds in the game are relative to each other rather than just "speeds in space"), a nuclear ballistic missile would proabably travel about the speed of a fighter (65+ m/s). At that speed we would able to shoot them down like bombs. I seriously doubt that space ships in the 24th century would go so horrendously slow.

Oh, and if they're at the level of the Romans...

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[eliex]

 That's a pretty good picture 

[FreeSpaceFreak]

I love it. The GTVA rules. 

[Kie99]

Blegh, they'd just pump us full of nukes..... assuming they've had a MASSIVE arms build-up similar to the Cold War, that is.

The Largest Earth Nukes today are 50 times less potent than a single Harbinger.  You could fire every single earth nuke at an Orion and barely scratch it.

[Snail]

In addition I doubt that fighters would move slower than a 747 either.

[blowfish]

The Largest Earth Nukes today are 50 times less potent than a single Harbinger.  You could fire every single earth nuke at an Orion and barely scratch it.

Really.  Where do you get this number from?

[Snail]

From his ass.

However, his ass appears to be a very reliable resource.

Fusion bomb surrounded by 3 salted fission bombs - propulsion unit is a half-size version of a regulation GTA fighter thruster (Class II) - given the weight of the payloads, the missile is slow despite the power of the thruster - as the Harbinger is exceptionally large, GTA bombers are limited to carrying 6 of these weapons at any given time - the resultant shock wave from this weapon is potentially deadly, due to the size of the payloads (5000 Mt in total) - use near allied installations or allied ship groupings is strongly discouraged by the GTA - most effective when used in preemptive defensive strike against non-military installations.


The Harbinger is our best chance of destroying the Lucifer.

5000 megatons. That's 5,000,000 kilotons. The bomb dropped on Hiroshima was 16 kilotons.

Oh, and the MX-50 in FS1 was 16 kilotons too.

[blowfish]

Ok.  But something stinks here.  The fury tech description says that it had a payload of 3kt, and does 30 damage points.  The Harbinger has a payload of 5000mt (5,000,000 kilotons), and does 3200 damage points.  That means it has 1.6 million times the payload but only does just over 100 times the damage.

[Jeff Vader]

Ok.  But something stinks here.  The fury tech description says that it had a payload of 3kt, and does 30 damage points.  The Harbinger has a payload of 5000mt (5,000,000 kilotons), and does 3200 damage points.  That means it has 1.6 million times the payload but only does just over 100 times the damage.

Canon inconsistensies. I guess doing math is the last thing on your mind when trying to meet publisher's deadlines.

From his ass.

However, his ass appears to be a very reliable resource.

- "I'm telling you. My theory is flawless."
- "Oh yeah? What proof do you have to back up your assumptions?"
- "kietotheworld's ass."
- "Oh..."
- "Touché."

[Gamma_Draconis]

5000 megatons. That's 5,000,000 kilotons. The bomb dropped on Hiroshima was 16 kilotons.
Oh, and the MX-50 in FS1 was 16 kilotons too.

What? How is that logically possible? I mean, it has to be like special uber powerful very high explosives or something.

[Snail]

In that respect FS is completely ****ed up.

[Kie99]

The Largest Earth Nukes today are 50 times less potent than a single Harbinger.  You could fire every single earth nuke at an Orion and barely scratch it.

Really.  Where do you get this number from?

Harbinger tech description saying it's 5000Mt, and the fact that the Tsar Bomba was 100Mt.

[Retsof]

Urm, I know I asked, but I doubt the GTVA would conquer some backwater planet just for the fun of it.  It goes against all their precious ideals.  But would they ignore them, or assimilate them, or make some horrendous mistake on first contact and get eaten? (ha ha)

[eliex]

 Alright, I don't get it, why do people here make out that the GTVA Command is rather dumb?
Not that I have a problem, just interested. 

[FreeSpaceFreak]

Just play through he main campagn again, then ask yourself: "What would have happened if I were in command of the fleet?"

[Jeff Vader]

 Alright, I don't get it, why do people here make out that the GTVA Command is rather dumb?
Not that I have a problem, just interested. 

The reasons are many.

- "Let's send 4 Myrmidons to stop a frigate. Yes. Excellent."
- "Let's attack the Ravana head-on with our warships now that we've seen what it can do to a Deimos. Yes. Excellent."
- "Let's enslave the weapon systems of the Warspite completely to the TAG missiles carried by a couple of Ulysseyeses. Yee-haw!"
- "Let's stick several capital ships in front of the Capella node to stop the Sathanas that is heading straight at them. Yes. Excellent."
- "Let's never shoot the Iceni when we have the chance. Yes. Fantastic."

And the list goes on. Maybe if Command asked itself 'What would Jesus do?', the GTVA might have succeeded better.

[Snail]

The reasons are many.

- "Let's send 4 Myrmidons to stop a frigate. Yes. Excellent."
- "Let's attack the Ravana head-on with our warships now that we've seen what it can do to a Deimos. Yes. Excellent."
- "Let's enslave the weapon systems of the Warspite completely to the TAG missiles carried by a couple of Ulysseyeses. Yee-haw!"
- "Let's stick several capital ships in front of the Capella node to stop the Sathanas that is heading straight at them. Yes. Excellent."
- "Let's never shoot the Iceni when we have the chance. Yes. Fantastic."

And the list goes on. Maybe if Command asked itself 'What would Jesus do?', the GTVA might have succeeded better.

Either Command is stupid or he had a special, secret agenda.

Jesus wouldn't have done anything, he was not an earthly messiah.

[Koth]

The Largest Earth Nukes today are 50 times less potent than a single Harbinger.  You could fire every single earth nuke at an Orion and barely scratch it.

Really.  Where do you get this number from?

Harbinger tech description saying it's 5000Mt, and the fact that the Tsar Bomba was 100Mt.

Engage nitpicking mode! Actually the Tsar Bomb had a yield of 50 to 57MT but its design permitted up to 100Mt. I also think that all those Iceni mishaps were part of a plan to get ETAK.

[Snail]

I also think that all those Iceni mishaps were part of a plan to get ETAK.

Yeah that's pretty obvious.