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Offline Bobboau

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ok, go ahead, make a better explanation, keep in mind better means it would have to describe and predict what is observed better than what the current theories.
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"better" is a very subjective term.

Speaking of which, I don't have to believe in any current theories or results. I can dismiss them as lies just as easily as some people dismiss God.
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a layman whos raised as christian and chooses to remain as such will most read the bible and accept the whole thing as truth. however an educated christian will read the bible, sort out facts, opinions, will be able to discern what should be taken literally and what is metaphor, and will be capable of reading between the lines and having a higher understanding of the whole thing. such people tend to be shunned by the christian community.

all the books by the apostles or whatever they called themselves were selected to be canonized for the sole reason that the tended to agree with each other. there were many other books by other apostles which were intentionally left out because they tended to make hey-sus out as just another preacher rather than a devine being (and mary was no virgin either). many remaining copies of those books are kept safely hidden in the vatican vault.
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Offline Janos

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"better" is a very subjective term.

Speaking of which, I don't have to believe in any current theories or results. I can dismiss them as lies just as easily as some people dismiss God.

Yes, but that means you willfully ignore reality.

lol wtf

 

Offline Bobboau

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"better" is a very subjective term.

Speaking of which, I don't have to believe in any current theories or results. I can dismiss them as lies just as easily as some people dismiss God.

yeah, you can, René Descartes tackled this one, and honestly if you want to believe that there is some supremely powerful force of deception, his noodley appendage changing the results on the machines and whatnot, go ahead. but I think it's fairly reasonable to accept that the physical world as we perceive it is more or less as it is. and if you accept this, than you can with your own hands useing machines you forged from iron you dug from the earth yourself, measure the phenomena these theories describe and get numbers, hard numbers, if you can make up an explanation that makes numbers that are reliably closer to the measured ones that the current theories, do it now before me.
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Then I shouldn't believe in gravity either? Or quantum mechanics? After all, I'm SURE I can come up with dozens of other explanations.

No you shouldn't believe in them. You should simply accept that the best explanations science has come up with are gravity and quantum mechanics. Believing in science is stupidity.
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Yes, but that means you willfully ignore reality.

I could same the same.


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Offline Janos

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Yes, but that means you willfully ignore reality.

I could same the same.


Amazing, amazing

lol wtf

 

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I think we've reached the point of wilful stupidity.

Not really much point in continuing.
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