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Offline Ransom

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They were necessary because the characters couldn't be confronted by the monster at every turn. Putting in some crazy humans would be pretty uninspired and hard to justify, I think. That was a great part of War of the Worlds, I agree, but it's a different set of circumstances. For that character insanity set in after hope was lost, but in Cloverfield the military was still evacuating people until right near the end. More importantly: the film's all about a lack of understanding, on both our side and (according to Abrams) the creature's. Including human antagonists, which of course we can understand, would spoil more than what the spiders did, I think.

I agree that they created an unwanted sense of invasion, though. But they're also responsible for what I found to be the most memorable scene in the film - the portion in the field hospital - so I forgive them.

Re: what they are - I got the impression that they were some kind of parasite/symbiont that lived on the body of the creature. I couldn't give any evidence to back that up, though.

 

Offline Stealth

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anyone else think those parasites looked like mini-shivans? :D

  
My apologies to my language here but, this is what piss me off the most.  if they can kill godzilla in the 1998 movie with 6 missles and how come the military can't down the clover aka monster while there bombing the hell out of him???   i don't see why they create a monster who can withstand our weapons system,  more like war of the worlds all over again =/

 

Offline Kosh

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My apologies to my language here but, this is what piss me off the most.  if they can kill godzilla in the 1998 movie with 6 missles and how come the military can't down the clover aka monster while there bombing the hell out of him???   i don't see why they create a monster who can withstand our weapons system,  more like war of the worlds all over again =/

Because the 1998 Godzilla movie was a bastardization. The real Godzilla could never be killed so easily.
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Offline Rictor

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Because any time that a monster can be killed with standard military weapons, it's bound to be a very short, uninteresting movie. At least if it's set in New York city....if they were on a deserted island or in a jungle with no access to help, that would be a different story.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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My apologies to my language here but, this is what piss me off the most.  if they can kill godzilla in the 1998 movie with 6 missles and how come the military can't down the clover aka monster while there bombing the hell out of him???   i don't see why they create a monster who can withstand our weapons system,  more like war of the worlds all over again =/

Brainfart.

They should have killed Godzilla in the water if anything. Damn near a ton of torpex in a Mark 48.
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My apologies to my language here but, this is what piss me off the most.  if they can kill godzilla in the 1998 movie with 6 missles and how come the military can't down the clover aka monster while there bombing the hell out of him???   i don't see why they create a monster who can withstand our weapons system,  more like war of the worlds all over again =/
You're forgetting how they managed to shoot up half of New York just trying to get a shot off at him.  How do a pair of Apaches miss a giant monster...no matter how fast he's moving.  More to the point...why even bother flying down at his level.  Fly up higher idiots!  Sit at standoff range and pelt the guy with Hellfires till he goes down.  I know they want to make dramatic movies so give us some good reasons why the military can't do that or show the military doing the smart things and being forced to adapt their tactics.
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i was gonna smack someone for nekroing this, but then i found out it was dekker :D
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Offline Dilmah G

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You're forgetting how they managed to shoot up half of New York just trying to get a shot off at him.  How do a pair of Apaches miss a giant monster...no matter how fast he's moving.  More to the point...why even bother flying down at his level.  Fly up higher idiots!  Sit at standoff range and pelt the guy with Hellfires till he goes down.  I know they want to make dramatic movies so give us some good reasons why the military can't do that or show the military doing the smart things and being forced to adapt their tactics.
You probably need to be fairly close to get accurate Hellfire fire in. (I'd assume those things drop like crazy after the first 2 k's).

On a more related note, is the movie worth watching? I ended up seeing I Am Legend instead of this.

 

Offline Scotty

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Not sure if it's a good movie (still haven't seen), but I don't think you went wrong with I Am Legend.  That was a good movie, even if it had very little to do with the book.

 

Offline Dilmah G

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Yeah, I liked it quite a bit. 3.5-4/5 IMO.

 

Offline Kosh

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i was gonna smack someone for nekroing this, but then i found out it was dekker :D

Well don't let that stop you. :p
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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For anyone not in the UK wanting to watch this. Try googling 4OD it's like BBC iplayer.
I heavily recommend this film to anyone who hasn't seen it. If you already have. . . . Then it speaks for itself.
 
 
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Offline Wobble73

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For anyone not in the UK wanting to watch this. Try googling 4OD it's like BBC iplayer.
I heavily recommend this film to anyone who hasn't seen it. If you already have. . . . Then it speaks for itself.
 
 
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I'm not sure 4OD is allowed to stream movies? Just tv shows they broadcast! Same for all the other TV websites (ITV Player, BBC Iplayer etc.)
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Offline General Battuta

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I Am Legend is pretty generically terribad. I would definitely take Cloverfield over it.

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Try here then,
www.tvcatchup.com/
 
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It should show the movies though.
 
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As far as dealing with Cloverfield was concerned...

Clear the Area. Send in Warthogs. No more monster. ;)

 

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I Am Legend is pretty generically terribad. I would definitely take Cloverfield over it.

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Offline General Battuta

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I Am Legend is pretty generically terribad. I would definitely take Cloverfield over it.

lies.

It missed its own point so badly that it couldn't even make sense of its own title.