[haloboy100]

Why can't the surface on the planet be battles from the T-V war? Wouldn't that make more sense?

Thats my theory.

And i see no shivan remains on that screenie. On the right is the half buried leg of a terran or vasudan. If that was shivan, you would see more from it.
And who said the Shivans have biodegradable exoskeletons anyway?

[Snail]

Just to clarify, I wasn't the one who said the Shivans were on Deneb, all I said "Just because they haven't done so yet doesn't mean they won't in the future.

[Colonol Dekker]

They're sealed off from "civilised" space point taken though

[Mustang19]

Shivans aren't terrestrial. They don't invade planets, they bombard them or ignore them completely.

Yeah, although the game makes it pretty clear that Shivans don't like landing on planets, the bodies on the planet surface are apparently dead pilots/crewmen, although they aren't distinctly recognizable as such. Not that an organism would remain recognizable at all after descending from space, but this is FreeSpace.

Look at Hades' pic. We have some weird metal cowling-looking contraption to the right. It looks as much like a Shivan leg as anything.

If that was shivan, you would see more from it.

Random fluff text by Dr. Hargrove from the first Knossos command brief: "Although Shivans exhibit considerable diversity as a species..." probably wasn't paying attention when they said that, but it's a canon statement.

[haloboy100]

has a lot of plot holes to explain...

[blowfish]

Look at Hades' pic. We have some weird metal cowling-looking contraption to the right. It looks as much like a Shivan leg as anything.

That looks like a human skeleton in armor to me.

[Cobra]

has a lot of plot holes to explain...

Which were originally going to be explained in FS3 until all prospects of making it were shot down.

[Mustang19]

That looks like a human skeleton in armor to me.

Looks too "muscular" to be a human leg or any other limb to me.

[blowfish]

But it doesn't really look shivan either.  Plus its hollow.  And it has human-like bones sticking out of it.  And its too small to be shivan, compared with the other bodies (this could be debatable though).

EDIT: And the upper part of the leg doesn't have this, which it would, were the leg shivan.

[Colonol Dekker]

Theses a hulking great Hades shipwreck next to the corpses what more do you expect lol. They're human

[Wobble73]

I'd say that it was a possibility that it is a Vasudan's leg we are seeing (With Vasudan armour of course).

[haloboy100]

Either way, i don't think we need to keep debating whether it's shivan or not.

[Colonol Dekker]

This is at least the third chat i've seen on this topic. *leaves to go drink beer*

[Grizzly]

But it doesn't really look shivan either.  Plus its hollow.  And it has human-like bones sticking out of it.  And its too small to be shivan, compared with the other bodies (this could be debatable though).

EDIT: And the upper part of the leg doesn't have this, which it would, were the leg shivan.

Isn't Deneb an Vesudan inhabited system?

[Snail]

Uhh, no, Vesudan is from Freespace, Vasudan is from FreeSpace.

[Colonol Dekker]

I'm not one to nitpick but that really made me smile snail, muahahaha

[haloboy100]

Uhh, no, Vesudan is from Freespace, Vasudan is from FreeSpace.

and your mom is from Myspace

JK

[DarthWang]

I always thought the demon in the FS2 opening cutscene was the Tantalus (which you encounter later in the FS1 campaign).

[Snail]

But it specifically said no other Shivan destroyers were in the system.

[DarthWang]

It could have arrived after that statement was made