[terran_emperor]

Thanks. To me the Battle of Deneb was the absolute peak of the great war. Its sort of hard to describe...Let me put it this way...I Think that if you ignored Vasuda, Deneb was the largest loss of life in the GW.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Thanks. To me the Battle of Deneb was the absolute peak of the great war. Its sort of hard to describe...Let me put it this way...I Think that if you ignored Vasuda, Deneb was the largest loss of life in the GW.

...yes, I think I would agree with you on that...although the losses due to the Battle of Deneb is nothing as compared to the losses from Vasuda.

[terran_emperor]

I wholey agree. The Losses in Deneb were nothing compared to Vasuda, But ignoring Apocalypse Scale Events my point stands

Well Strictly speaking, I count The Battle of Deneb and The Fall of Vasuda as 2 phases of the same engagement...

In Fact, I think some major combat went on in the Vasuda System. Think the 'Battle of the Line' from the Earth-Minbari war in B5 or The Drakh Attack only they got the Death Cloud to Earth.

[Charismatic]

Just imagine every single ship that had a lazer turret on Vasuda Prime, out to defend their world. It's horrible to think of. It was such a tradgety. Heartless bastards on the Lucifer. ****ing shivans.

[Stealth]

...However, it was quickly determined that the Usra was better suited to the carrying high-yield payload - the Tsunami. the entire batch was withdrawn from service and began the modifications into the Ursa we love/hate.

Don't you mean the HARBINGER?

[terran_emperor]

I'd completly missed that.

:Fixed

[Snail]

I'd say the Battle of Deneb was a larger battle than Vasuda, but more civilian Vasudans lost their lives in the Battle of Vasuda.

[Mobius]

Uhm...how do you know it?

[Snail]

I don't. It's my opinion.

[Mobius]

In the Battle of Deneb there was a considerable presence of Terrans. The Battle of Vasuda might have been a larger engagement during which there were only Vasudans fighting the Shivans.

[Snail]

I remember hearing that the Vasudans wanted to head off the Shivans in Deneb rather than fight in their own system.

[Colonol Dekker]

In short i'd reckon that having ones homeworld razed tends to affect the civilian population. Most Zods are 2nd gen refugees anyway don't forget.

[Mobius]

Depends on the situation.

"We can't save our homeworld, we'll try to defend the nearest system!"

and...

"We'll do everything we can to stop them here!"

The second option is more Vasudan.

[Snail]

Depends. There could be another situation:

Either: "They shall not enter our system! Stop them here! " or "By the gods, they have too many ships! Retreat to Vasuda and hope they don't follow us!  "

The former option is more Vasudan. It depends, really, but canon dictates the former is what the Vasudans did...

[Mobius]

They were defending their homeworld AND billions of civilians. And they were Vasudans. There's no need to discuss this aspect anymore.

[Snail]

There's no need to discuss this aspect anymore.

Agreed.