[TrashMan]

Updatish:

[Cobra]

I don't think this should be used as the HTL Colossus. It doesn't exactly look like the Colossus. Use it as a Colossus MK2.

Indeed.  While this thing looks cool, it gets a massive "hell no" from this observer in terms of getting into the VPs.  I feel like I'm alone in this, but I thought the original Colossus design was great.  It's a massive, ugly slab of a ship that screams "don't **** with me, buddy."  That concept art seems far too graceful to represent something of that aesthetic.

Ain't it great that it's optional?

[Herra Tohtori]

I dunno... I think the head and the rear section would work fine, but the smoothed, rounded part in the middle kinda bothers me, it doesn't look like it belongs to the same model.

Then again, you could use the Vasudan cap ship hull plating style textures (like on Aten, Sobek and Hatshepsut) on the smoothed part and see what it does to the overall look. It is supposed to be a Terran-Vasudan hybrid ship after all. But if that doesn't look good, that's the section that I would like to see having more of an uniform design compared to the rest of ship. In general the midship could be wider bulkier (like in the retail Colossus)... that does look a bit too lean for a juggernaut class ship.


I think the concept does have some things that could be taken into high-poly Colossus (the head looks better than in the FS2 final version IMHO, and the rear section as well), but it should retain the "Hulk Angry - Hulk Smash" attitude of the original Colossus... complete with the ability to make pilot butter jelly with a baseball bat.

[Ulala]

Looks cool.

[Hades]

I really like where this is going. Nice ship.

complete with the ability to make pilot butter jelly with a baseball bat.

That is fun unless you're on the receiving end of the bat.

[Herra Tohtori]

That is fun unless you're on the receiving end of the bat.

You know, the Colossus has probably given me just as many "DIVE DIVE DIVE! Hit your burners pilots" -moments as the Sathanas... Flying alongside it, then you notice (sometimes too late, sometimes not) that it's starting to turn...

  -oh shi---- <static>

[S-99]

This would be awesome if it made it into the mediavp's when finished of course. I think people have gotten use to the colossus being nothing than the original not worked on model since fs2 retail came out.  Then when someone makes a kickass model true to the concept people got to bash it and say that it'll never get into the mediavp's or that it'd be great as a colossus mark 2 or something dumb like that. The model isn't completed yet, so we should pass judgement when it's done. So far the model looks a lot different compared to the screenshots at the first page of this thread compared to the updated screenshots on this page. It's a WIP, suggestions should be warranted.

While we're at it why do sucky ships like the hecate get to look pretty and awesome ships like the colossus not get a make over?

As far as my suggestion goes, trashman should definitely add all of the turrets

[Mongoose]

Ain't it great that it's optional?

I don't see it as being all that "optional" if it would require me to go out of my way to replace a model that, in my opinion, doesn't belong in the MediaVPs to begin with with a technically inferior retail version, especially considering the fact that it would be the only one I'd feel would require it.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the whole purpose of the MediaVPs and the content therein to provide an audiovisual upgrade to the retail content, not to swap out ship models willy-nilly with something drastically different just because some people aren't fond of the original design?  I've heard a lot of complaints that the Erinyes looks like a glorified flying clothespin; does that mean that someone should re-imagine it as a clothes hangar and throw that in the VPs?

Look, I think it's great that TrashMan is modeling a concept-art ship, and I think what he's doing is fairly cool-looking.  However, even putting the principle of the thing aside, it doesn't work as a replacement Colossus at all in my mind.  The front end looks far too slimmed-down, to the point where it flows right into the neck without much interruption.  That huge beefy midsection that was probably the Colossus's defining visual characteristic is almost completely gone.  And the back end seems rather abbreviated to propel a ship of that size.  As a model in and of itself, it looks great; as an "HTL Colossus"...just no.  Someone earlier mentioned the partial Colossus that a modeler started on a year or so ago; in my opinion, that's the sort of thing that belongs in the VPs.

[Goober5000]

Heh, I just noticed the juxtaposition.  Title'd.

[Mongoose]

My sleep-deprived brain took a minute to figure out what prompted that, but kickass.

[Raven2001]

I like where it is going so far.

Although, being a WiP, the following comments might be just nitpicking from my part:
1. The secondary engines (the middle and front section ones) are housed in a very displeasing square hole, I'd make stuff like that with more rounded edges.

2. the rear engines could and should be bulkied more, in relation with the rest of the ship (just like in the concept.

3. beware of the silhouette in some areas, its still very flat

Keep it up! Were I to decide, this would go into the media VP's

[TrashMan]

I dunno... I think the head and the rear section would work fine, but the smoothed, rounded part in the middle kinda bothers me, it doesn't look like it belongs to the same model.

Then again, you could use the Vasudan cap ship hull plating style textures (like on Aten, Sobek and Hatshepsut) on the smoothed part and see what it does to the overall look. It is supposed to be a Terran-Vasudan hybrid ship after all. But if that doesn't look good, that's the section that I would like to see having more of an uniform design compared to the rest of ship. In general the midship could be wider bulkier (like in the retail Colossus)... that does look a bit too lean for a juggernaut class ship.

I'm aware of that..we'll see how it looks with some textures or in. I'm unsure of that part myself, but ATM I'm just trying to follow the concept.
Modification WILL be made if deemed necessary.

1. The secondary engines (the middle and front section ones) are housed in a very displeasing square hole, I'd make stuff like that with more rounded edges.

2. the rear engines could and should be bulkied more, in relation with the rest of the ship (just like in the concept.

3. beware of the silhouette in some areas, its still very flat

Duly noted ,)

[Hades]

It doesn't look as wide on the X-axis (left to right) as the original Colossus did.

[Snail]

It doesn't look as wide on the X-axis (left to right) as the original Colossus did.

IMO that's a good thing since this isn't a HTL Colossus, it's more like a variant. (as I've said like 3 times before)



Anyway, this thing looks great. More detail makes it look bigger without it needing to be such a big model, like Inferno SCP's HTL Lindos.

That said, how large are those comm. towers, anyway?

[Hades]

I know, I was pointing it out. (BTW that was like 8:00 in the morning and I had no nights sleep).
HT&L Lindos?

[Snail]

HT&L Lindos?

I guess those EA window textures add to the "looks big" effect.

[Mobius]

True, but the red turrets somewhat compensate.

[Hades]

That... makes my models inadequate.

[Snail]

That... makes my models inadequate.

Only since you never texture or convert them!

[Mobius]

That's not the FS2 Colossus...feel free to add as many turrets as you can ()