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Hi! I'm brand new to the fs2 modding univers, altough I've played both games seins release....  Now for the question. I'v searched this forum (and many others) and not found and absolute answer, I've checkt FAQs on this board but its unclear. I tried modding some ships in the root_fs2 folder, just increasing the hull of some crusiers and such, and now it wont start. I have freespace open installed, can it have something to do whit that?

Thankfull for any answer...

Peter

 
What you want to do is open the root .VP and extract it. Just right click on it and extract to DATA and there should be a little folder back in the main area titled "data". Go in there and look for the "tables" folder and then just edit it in notepad or something.
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Just right click on it and extract to DATA and there should be a little folder back in the main area titled "data". Go in there and look for the "tables" folder and then just edit it in notepad or something.

And then extract it back? Please bare whit me. I need step by step instructions...

Thanks for the help tough!

 

Offline Mad Bomber

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1) Open up Root.vp
2) Extract ships.tbl and weapons.tbl to somewhere or other (you can edit any of them you want, but those are the two biggies)
3) Open the TBL you're trying to edit in Notepad or Wordpad
4) When you're done and want to test it, stick the edited TBLs into (Freespace folder)/data/tables.
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Nope, you don't have to put it back. As long as it is in it's proper data directory the game should look for it first.
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Offline Getter Robo G

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Did you figure it out, or should I repost my photobucket tutorial on basic modding for newbs.

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Did you figure it out, or should I repost my photobucket tutorial on basic modding for newbs.

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Please do. Can't hurt.
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Offline Getter Robo G

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I know you know what'd I'd post, no sense in beating a dead horse (with dead horse pictures also) lol...

I just want to smack my head against a wall when new people speak of altering vp's just for minor tweaks. Reminds me of the old days when I was like (why doesn't this work???)  :lol:
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Thanks for all the replys... One thing though.... Root.VP is that the root.fs2? Cuse there are no file named root.VP in the freespace2 directory.


 
YIKES! i never had that much stuff in there. maybe its cuz i use thumbnails though. anyway, don't you have to put the new stuff in TBMs and like maybe tweak the ship's fred name (tpirrahnacruise>tpirrahnacruise2) for this to work? as much for him as for me lol.

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Offline Getter Robo G

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Ok here we go (God that killed my eyes I cant see it)...

Basic and backwards modding or: "By a noob for Newbs (BEGIN!)"


This is your Fs2 Directory, notice Root.vp is between Patch and smarty.vp



Any sets of modifications deserve their own folder as you can see I juggle many projects.



You want to open your Root.vp (or simlply copy the data folder of a standard mod, that's a LOT faster/easier I IZ SLUG)  :lol:

you will get a folder called data with these inside:




What you want is the table files:



The ships table is your target for notepad and then it's a simple thing to go to every ship you want altered at the entry: Hit Points:  xxxxxx whatever

Hit SAVE [NOT SAVE AS!!!} I can't stress that enough.


Now you should for integrity sake copy and add these to the folder you've called your mod "Ironsides" or whatever. The mod you now created needs to be in it's own folder and the files hang out with your data folder.





To run the game you will have to tell FS2 where/ho to find it and use the launcher to select/deselect options :Glowmaps/shine etc... the emaps and e effects are not used.. I don;t have tutorials for these files anyway, you'll figure it out pretty quick.



Point the luancher to teh name of your mod(folder0, you can make any pic you want that is teh dimensions of a listed mod's picture 112x200 something I forget..  You can replace the descrpition text in a second and SAVE (not save as).

That should cover almost all you need to know about BASIC FS2 SCP modding (YAY!) now go forth and amaze us with your 7eet skillz....   

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FS2 Trek - Snails move faster than me...
Star Blazers: Journey to Iscandar...
FS GUNDAM - The Myth lives on... :)

 
Wow! Thanks... That was very helpfull. One problem though. When I try to open the Root.vp, it says "The archive is either unknown or damaged" (I used winrar) But I can open the file in Nootpad.

What am I doing wrong?

 

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Wow! Thanks... That was very helpfull. One problem though. When I try to open the Root.vp, it says "The archive is either unknown or damaged" (I used winrar) But I can open the file in Nootpad.


winrar knows nothing about the .vp format, and you shouldn't be opening it in notepad
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Offline Mad Bomber

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I think I forgot to mention that he should get VPView to open up the VP file. Oops.
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Offline Getter Robo G

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My bad, for some reason I thought you mentioned you had open vp's and extracted data ALREADY and got stuck with why your changes weren't sticking...

Plus I didn't amke a tut album for that yet.

 ;)
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"I am the one and ONLY Star Dragon..."
Proof for the noobs:  Member Search

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Robotech II - Continuing...
FS2 Trek - Snails move faster than me...
Star Blazers: Journey to Iscandar...
FS GUNDAM - The Myth lives on... :)

 
Vpview uh... I'll download and give it a shot...  Even I should be abel to figur it out! (crosses fingers)

  

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Vpview uh... I'll download and give it a shot...  Even I should be abel to figur it out! (crosses fingers)

If VPView gives you trouble ( which it has been known to do), download Maja.

 
Ok... VP.Viewer dident work...so I downloaded Maja, but I'm not sure how to use it...  I can import the root.vp file, but not extract it or edit it and the majas help file dosent tell me anything..

 

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Ok... VP.Viewer dident work...so I downloaded Maja, but I'm not sure how to use it...  I can import the root.vp file, but not extract it or edit it and the majas help file dosent tell me anything..

Click the folder you want to extract from it -> right click -> extract.  And trust me.  You really don't want to modify this VP.