[TrashMan]

Will that be in 3.6.10?

[Snail]

I was wondering the same thing meeself.

[Colonol Dekker]

Would be awesome for subspace cruise missiles, or skipper (wing commander fanbois rejoice) missiles!

[Snail]

Well there are already local Local SSM.

[Colonol Dekker]

I know that anyone played project sylpheed? It has missiles the length of battleships lol

[karajorma]

Will that be in 3.6.10?

No.

And ten out of ten for moving from simply asking for a feature respectfully to asking why it won't be in 3.6.10 as if it's some sort of failing from the SCP to have not included it the second you thought of it.


EDIT : Actually since you're a coder why don't you do it? Here's your starting point.

weapon_create() contains this little snippet of code

   if (wip->wi_flags & WIF_BOMB){
      objp->hull_strength = 50.0f;
   } else {
      objp->hull_strength = 0.0f;
   }

There you go. Add the table function and test heavily in both multiplayer and single player until you've proved beyond a reasonable doubt that you haven't introduced any bugs.

[blowfish]

It would be cool if we could also have shields for bombs, but maybe I'm asking for too much.

EDIT: I just looked at the code, and adding custom HP to a bomb wouldn't be too hard ( I'm not even going to look at sheilds ).  Would it look something like this?:

weapon.h

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typedef struct weapon_info {
...
float max_hull_strength;
...
}
weapon.cpp

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void init_weapon_entry(int weap_info_index) {
...
wip->max_hull_strength = 0.0f
...
}

int parse_weapon(int subtype, bool replace) {
...
if(optional_string("$Hitpoints:"))
{
stuff_float(&wip->max_hull_strength);
if (wip->hitpoints < 0.0f)
{
Warning(LOCATION, "Max hull strength on %s '%s' cannot be less than 0.  Defaulting to 0.\n", info_type_name, wip->name, wip->max_hull_strength);
wip->max_hull_strength = 0.0f;
}
}
...
}

int weapon_create( vec3d * pos, matrix * porient, int weapon_type, int parent_objnum, int group_id, int is_locked, int is_spawned) {
...
if (wip->wi_flags & WIF_BOMB){
if (wip->max_hull_strength <= 0.0f) {
objp->hull_strength = 50.0f;
} else {
objp->hull_strength = wip->max_hull_strength;
}
} else {
objp->hull_strength = 0.0f;
}
...
}
Forgive me if this is incomplete/buggy/flat out wrong, I am really a n00b programmer who is used to working with high-level, object-oriented APIs in GUI based apps (in Objective-C or Java), and I am not set to test this.

[karajorma]

Seems about right. I'd assumed that would be all there was to it when I noticed the code I posted above and clipped it to my things to do list. I'd probably have replaced this if

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if (wip->max_hull_strength <= 0.0f)
with an assertion since in the usual running of the game there's no way that value should be negative due to the way the parse code was written and if something else is changing the value I'd rather know about it than silently fix it.

[blowfish]

Does that mean we will get custom HP for bombs sometime in the near future?

[karajorma]

If people want to test it, sure. I see no reason not to.

[JGZinv]

Baxslash and myself had come up with the concept a few months ago
for a few different variants of the SSM, in some cases including shields.

However we just decided to use a "ship" (as a missile/bomb) with tweaked
attributes and scripted events. 

But this will probably make it easier now. 

[TrashMan]

If people want to test it, sure. I see no reason not to.

YAaaaay!!
but honestly, it's not like this is a new idea. I recall seeing this idea thrown about for years.

Hooray for the SCP team! They bring us much goodies!

[karajorma]

I know it's not a new idea. The fact I've had it on my todo list for ages proves that. But the simple fact is that unless you have reason to believe someone was working on it acting like it should be in 3.6.10 is a quick way to piss off the coders.

[WMCoolmon]

Especially given that you claim to be working on some kind of 50-page project based on the SCP to prove that you understand the code and that you deserve a degree, but then you have people explain the code to you because you don't want to actually learn how to code.

It's kind of hard to feel sympathetic for someone who's openly professed to taking advantage of the people who actually do the work for the degree, so that they can try to BS their professors and devalue the degree that they're getting.

[Mobius]

I thought the plural of "torpedo" was "torpedoes".

[TrashMan]

Especially given that you claim to be working on some kind of 50-page project based on the SCP to prove that you understand the code and that you deserve a degree, but then you have people explain the code to you because you don't want to actually learn how to code.

It's kind of hard to feel sympathetic for someone who's openly professed to taking advantage of the people who actually do the work for the degree, so that they can try to BS their professors and devalue the degree that they're getting.

Actually, I decided to make a engine instead of modifying an existing one. It's crap, but it works and I'm happy. And I'm not trying to get a degree for programing..computer sciences ecompases much more than just coding.

[Woolie Wool]

Wouldn't bombs need more sophisticated collision detection anyway? Right now the coordinate of (0,0,0) within the bomb model must be within the radius of a primary weapons shot for the bomb to blow up, right?

[Polpolion]

What about dampening for missiles? Is that even remotely possible?

[Snail]

What about dampening for missiles? Is that even remotely possible?

Next thing we know we have bombs with turrets.

[Mobius]

The Venom cruise missile has a turret

One second... what if we use a normal model(with shields) as bomb? Is it going to keep the shields? There are a few screenshots of Erynies torpedoes and other interesting stuff somewhere.