[Zalardis]

JUST Because of its totally emerged beam cannon.

If GTVA could develop a good battle strategy，such as post many small battle groups consist of bomber,fighter and light class cruiser to cover the bomber to take the turret down.Sathanas is only a huge target……

Also because all beam at the forward,Sathanas must always change its shipbow to focus the fire power on the cruiser direction with its poor maneuverability
 

What i want to say is Sathanas is really limited if it facing a mass battle

If the colossus can hold its fire opening in a high rate with a long time, I believe that colossus is able to defeat serval Destoryers at the same time，eg:the SD Ravana,while the Sathanas would be decimated

[Snail]

If you attack it from the back, it will turn around.

[NGTM-1R]

The Sathanas is a microcosm of the Shivan war machine in a lot of ways. Recall that there is essentially no purpose to a defensive Shivan warship: they have nothing to defend. It is designed to make full use of their main advantages: superior subspace technologies and devestating, rapid-fire beam cannon. The Sathanas is blitzkrieg and manuver warfare on a vast scale. It will not be attacked. It will do the attacking. It cannot be pinned down: its many engine systems and superior subspace drive ensure it will be difficult to stop or keep up with, and its massive firepower ensures that you cannot block its way out for long or trap it in an engagement with another craft.

Yet when all else fails, as it did in A Monster In The Mist, it can have real difficulty dealing with a single inconveniently placed opponent not a twentith of its size.

[Snail]

Theoretically, you could destroy a Sath through good tactics or deployment of forces. However, in practice, the Shivans are more than likely going to summon a few Demons or Ravanas to take out your taskforce.


Sathanas jugs may be a bad juggernaut on its own, but in the actual battlefield, filled with hundreds of thousands of Shivan fighters, bombers, and a multitude of support warships, there is no sure way of taking one down.

[BengalTiger]

Sathanas jugs may be a bad juggernaut on its own, but in the actual battlefield, filled with hundreds of thousands of Shivan fighters, bombers, and a multitude of support warships, there is no sure way of taking one down.

Unless you sneek up on one...
let's say a few wings of stealth fighters armed with Trebuchets to disarm the monster (concentrating on AAA and Flak), and once that's done, a conventional Ursa/Boanerges/Sekhmet raid against the main beams.
As soon as the beams are down, the Phoenicia could hold it back*

*I cannot guarantee that the Sath won't launch 250 Nahemas and Seraphims, with endless fighter escort to pwn the Hecate.

[Titan]

ppor hecate... 

[FreeSpaceFreak]

Yeah...
(The following is for the Universe, not the game)
I think that some Infyrnos, fired into its fighterbay (Damn, that hole is huge, make it at least 20) could incapacitate it.

Or you could take a risk and fly into it yourself. How far would you get? Think Death Star II
The only problem will be the hundreds of fighters on your tail. Maximize your rear shields.

[General Battuta]

And the thousands of Shivans with integral plasma weapons inside.

[Woolie Wool]

The weapons used in fighter-to-fighter combat in FS are tac-nuke grade according to FS1. The Shivan equivalent of small arms wouldn't do **** to a fighter.

[General Battuta]

You're probably right. It would, however, be really cool.

[Snail]

The weapons used in fighter-to-fighter combat in FS are tac-nuke grade according to FS1. The Shivan equivalent of small arms wouldn't do **** to a fighter.

Maybe they have nukes inside too.

[FreeSpaceFreak]

Maybe they have nukes inside too.

Nah... I don't think the innards of the ship would be that strong.

Perhaps someone could try and make a model of the inside of a ship. Start off with a Moloch and go to larger ships as you gain experience.
I would do it myself, but it's probably too complicated for a first try at modelling.

EDIT: Colonol Dekker's title looks like a good place to start gathering inspiration.

[Snail]

Derek Smart wanted to do that.

[Colonol Dekker]

?? Huh? I can't see it on this cWap browser. What's it say?

[Polpolion]

I'm willing to bet that the Sathi has 5 times the fighter compliment that the collosus does, and if GTVA command was smart enough to send a massive bomber wave at the sath, then the shivans would be smart enough to sortie an intercept flight of say... 200 dragons.

[blowfish]

I'm willing to bet that the Sathi has 5 times the fighter compliment that the collosus does, and if GTVA command was smart enough to send a massive bomber wave at the sath, then the shivans would be smart enough to sortie an intercept flight of say... 200 dragans.

You'd think the Shivans could have come up with some more fighters in Bearbaiting.

[Polpolion]

I'm willing to bet that the Sathi has 5 times the fighter compliment that the collosus does, and if GTVA command was smart enough to send a massive bomber wave at the sath, then the shivans would be smart enough to sortie an intercept flight of say... 200 dragans.

You'd think the Shivans could have come up with some more fighters in Bearbaiting.

You'd also think the GTVA could've came up with more ships to escort their 20 year, several billion dollar, 30000 people investment, aka the Colossus.

[Jeff Vader]

I'm willing to bet that the Sathi has 5 times the fighter compliment that the collosus does, and if GTVA command was smart enough to send a massive bomber wave at the sath, then the shivans would be smart enough to sortie an intercept flight of say... 200 dragans.

You'd think the Shivans could have come up with some more fighters in Bearbaiting.

You'd also think the GTVA could've came up with more ships to escort their 20 year, several billion dollar, 30000 people investment.

Or someone really trusts Alpha 1.

[Polpolion]

I'm willing to bet that the Sathi has 5 times the fighter compliment that the collosus does, and if GTVA command was smart enough to send a massive bomber wave at the sath, then the shivans would be smart enough to sortie an intercept flight of say... 200 dragans.

You'd think the Shivans could have come up with some more fighters in Bearbaiting.

You'd also think the GTVA could've came up with more ships to escort their 20 year, several billion dollar, 30000 people investment.

Or someone really trusts Alpha 1.

Which is why neither the GTVA nor Shivans are smart enough to deploy escorts proportionate to a ship's importance.

[Kie99]

That's down to game engine limitations.