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Offline Woolie Wool

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Re: Rants about the Circe
I redid the Maxim effects in the style of INF:A railguns for Twist of Fate, as shown below:



The effects files and table entry are attached to my post. The table entry has an FS1-style technobabble tech description and references a damage bar graph loadout ani instead of the green grid thing, as it was taken from Twist of Fate. I find that the trails greatly help aiming. The blue isn't as bright as the retail version (pale effects are something I'm using a lot in Twist of Fate), but that would be very easy to fix.

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Re: Rants about the Circe
looks better without the railgun rings effect. Easier on the eyes too....
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Offline Woolie Wool

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Re: Rants about the Circe
The rings give it commonality with the INF:A railguns I'm using, as it's supposed to be a railgun as well.

In action, the rings go pretty much all the way down the trail, and are farther spread apart. Maxims are difficult to get a good screenshot of because of their velocity.
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Offline Retsof

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Re: Rants about the Circe
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Maxims are difficult to get a good screenshot of because of their velocity.
Use cheats and slow down time, that's what I do when trying for a screenshot of a weapon.
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Re: Rants about the Circe
The new maxim DaBrain posted looks much better than the current one, but I can't really get an idea of its scale from that screenshot. I have a feeling the projectile needs to be somewhat longer to be close enough to the original though.

As people said earlier, time compression helps a lot for getting close up shots of weapons. I would especially like to see how it looks from the cockpit of something like the Serapis, in which you can see the shots really close up when firing it.

I don't think the rings look good either, especially on something moving so fast. The Akheton also has rings already and it would look a little strange for both of them to be using the same effect when the weapons don't have anything in common otherwise.

 

Offline Woolie Wool

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Re: Rants about the Circe
Well, I wanted to do a miniature of the INF:A railguns, which had rings perhaps because of the railguns = glowing rings tradition started by Quake II. At any rate, the rings are always blue instead of changing color like the Akheton's. What about the vapor trail, though? I find it to be effective for precision aiming as well as looking cool.
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Re: Rants about the Circe
The rings give it commonality with the INF:A railguns I'm using, as it's supposed to be a railgun as well.

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Offline Woolie Wool

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Re: Rants about the Circe
The rings give it commonality with the INF:A railguns I'm using, as it's supposed to be a railgun as well.

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Um, the Maxim tech description indicates that it's either a railgun or a coilgun:

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a high-velocity mass-driver cannon, accelerating uranium slugs along its smoothbore barrel

As for the "by definition an energy weapon" part of the description, railguns use electricity to fire, which could be drawn from the ship's capacitor.

Also, without the capship railguns, pre-beam cannon capship battles are incredibly, painfully dull.

FS1-style Maxim tech description I wrote for TOF:
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Adapted from capital ship railgun technology ; rapidly fires depleted uranium hypervelocity slugs. High velocity and efficient railgun technology ensure accuracy at ranges of up to three kilometers. The Maxim is designed to damage capital ships and incapacitate subsystems and turrets. Maxim rounds are optimized for physical targets - attacks on shielded fighters are ineffective.

The Maxim is the ultimate anti-warship weapon for a fighter. Compact, very long-ranged, and massively powerful, the Maxim is designed to allow fighters to fire on capital ships from a safe distance. High energy consumption, low shield damage, and strong recoil lessen the effectiveness of the Maxim somewhat, but it is still an invaluable weapon.
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Offline Hellstryker

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Re: Rants about the Circe
I redid the Maxim effects in the style of INF:A railguns for Twist of Fate, as shown below:



The effects files and table entry are attached to my post. The table entry has an FS1-style technobabble tech description and references a damage bar graph loadout ani instead of the green grid thing, as it was taken from Twist of Fate. I find that the trails greatly help aiming. The blue isn't as bright as the retail version (pale effects are something I'm using a lot in Twist of Fate), but that would be very easy to fix.

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Offline Polpolion

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Re: Rants about the Circe
Why do railguns have to have rings? You can't even see the railgun rounds when they're fired. Or at least that's how it is in RL.

 

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They're cool...and RL is separate from FS.
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Re: Rants about the Circe
Why do railguns have to have rings? You can't even see the railgun rounds when they're fired. Or at least that's how it is in RL.
I blame this :p

 

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Re: Rants about the Circe
The rings give it commonality with the INF:A railguns I'm using, as it's supposed to be a railgun as well.

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Um, the Maxim tech description indicates that it's either a railgun or a coilgun:

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Offline Woolie Wool

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Re: Rants about the Circe
What's your problem with Inferno?
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Offline S-99

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Re: Rants about the Circe
Sorry to rain on people's parade here. I got corrected years ago on the maxim as well.

Quote from: The WIKI
Reconstruction efforts after the Great War inspired advancements in metallurgy and efficient conventional explosives. The two are elegantly combined in the GTW-66 Maxim. The Maxim is by definition an energy weapon, though it behaves like a high-velocity mass-driver cannon, accelerating uranium slugs along its smoothbore barrel. The Maxim has a difficult time penetrating energy-based shields, but it has a devastating effect on hull plating and subsystem armor.

It's just a big smooth bore barrelled gun that uses explosion powered bullets, and caseless ammunition at that too. It's no railgun or coil gun.
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Offline Shade

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Re: Rants about the Circe
I like DaBrain's new version. Rings don't really agree with my impression of how weapon fire should look in freespace. They're just too, well, cartoony for my taste.
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Offline S-99

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Re: Rants about the Circe
Rings should definitely be gotten rid of and possibly make it look like the maxim actually spits out bullets would be a first too.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Rants about the Circe
I think the original effect was pretty awesome, honestly...

 

Offline Woolie Wool

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Re: Rants about the Circe
Sorry to rain on people's parade here. I got corrected years ago on the maxim as well.

Quote from: The WIKI
Reconstruction efforts after the Great War inspired advancements in metallurgy and efficient conventional explosives. The two are elegantly combined in the GTW-66 Maxim. The Maxim is by definition an energy weapon, though it behaves like a high-velocity mass-driver cannon, accelerating uranium slugs along its smoothbore barrel. The Maxim has a difficult time penetrating energy-based shields, but it has a devastating effect on hull plating and subsystem armor.

It's just a big smooth bore barrelled gun that uses explosion powered bullets, and caseless ammunition at that too. It's no railgun or coil gun.

The explosives could be in the bullets. Why would it consume energy otherwise? The most logical explanation is that it is a railgun or coilgun that fires explosive shells.
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Offline Mars

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Re: Rants about the Circe
Conventional explosives don't necessarily mean chemical explosives in 2365.