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Offline Kosh

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War with Iran?
on: April 02, 2008, 08:24:49 am
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Shade

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Re: War with Iran?
Reply #1 on: April 02, 2008, 08:38:01 am
War using what?

The US doesn't exactly have any military forces to spare for another invasion. Pull them from Iraq and the place will melt down faster than an icecube in a supernova. Pull them from Afghanistan and, besides the fact that there aren't enough troops there to hurt Iran if they were used, everyone else engaged there will use it as an excuse to get the hell out. Use any troops that remain stateside and you doom both Afganistan and Iraq as there will be noone to replace the troops already there.

Of course, they could bomb and launch a bunch of cruise missiles without too much trouble, but actual war? Not unless they intend to start drafting people to swell the ranks. And considering how easy it would be for Iran to return the favour given the number of american troops in Iraq, it would be a very bad idea to start bombing unless prepared for real fighting as well.
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Re: War with Iran?
Reply #2 on: April 02, 2008, 08:45:38 am
I could see the draft coming... If that happens I hope to get the chance to move away.  I would probably get drafted. :(
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Re: War with Iran?
Reply #3 on: April 02, 2008, 08:49:43 am
Why is the article dated 2007?
 

Offline Kosh

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Reply #4 on: April 02, 2008, 09:03:35 am
Didn't notice that, since that was almost exactly one year ago......
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Reply #5 on: April 02, 2008, 09:12:24 am
It didn't take a genius to notice the US has forces in Afghanistan, Iraq, the Gulf, and is friendly with Pakistan.  (80% of Iran's border)
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Reply #6 on: April 02, 2008, 09:16:00 am
still... I could get drafted! :(
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Reply #7 on: April 02, 2008, 09:49:28 am
April Fools!


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Offline DeepSpace9er

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Reply #8 on: April 03, 2008, 06:08:38 pm
What do you mean the US doesnt have enough troops? There are like 180k in Iraq and like 30k in Afghanistan. IIRC there were over 300,000 sitting in the desert for Operation: Desert Shield back in the early 90s. There are plenty to be used in Iran, and seeing as most of the problems in Iraq are coming from Iran (explosives, combatants) using some of the soldiers in Iraq in Iran would not necessarily decrease security.
 

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Reply #9 on: April 03, 2008, 06:28:59 pm
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Offline IceFire

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Re: War with Iran?
Reply #10 on: April 03, 2008, 06:55:03 pm
The US along with many of the NATO nations have already committed whatever forces they can either militarily or politically (the Canadian Forces are at their limit for deployment) without a full mobilized war effort.  Economically the US has already run far beyond what it should have...with 9 trillion dollars of debt and billions spent every day for Iraq and Afghanistan I'm a wee bit concerned what the long term outcome will be.

War with Iran would be insanity I think at this point.  Not without jeopardizing all of the current operations or pulling troops from other regions (which IMHO those numbers tend to have a stabilizing effect in those areas and have for decades).  What I could see would be a limited strike against targets of interest, probably by air, but not a full scale ground war. 

(That might also be a bad thing right now with the F-15A-D Eagle fleet either grounded or restricted and the F-117 in the process of being retired.)
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Reply #11 on: April 03, 2008, 07:47:32 pm
If it came to a draft, I most certainly would volunteer before I'm drafted.

I might not like the US's current foreign policy, but it's still my country. If I went anywhere else I'd either be a stupid, rich, vulnerable Westerner or a backwater yank. If some-idiot-on-high decided to go to war with Iran, the US will need all the troops it can get.
 

Offline Nuclear1

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Reply #12 on: April 03, 2008, 08:15:07 pm
It's really a lot of wasteful spending too. I mean, we're not exactly fighting enemies with comparable arsenals anymore, and very few potentially hostile nations can match up to the US military technologically. The Air Force spends billions developing the F-35 while we're fighting insurgents who have no access to an air force at all.

And if they try to draft me...good luck. I already volunteered. :p
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Offline Kosh

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Re: War with Iran?
Reply #13 on: April 03, 2008, 08:23:36 pm
Here's some more recent information
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Fearless Leader

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Reply #14 on: April 03, 2008, 09:51:30 pm
well, if the US ever does go to war with Iran then we are retarded, remember when Iraq went to war with Iran? A larger better trained better equipped force was defeated then because every male from the age of 12 up joined the military and pushed them back with a wall of people. When the US invaded Iraq the civilian population and some of the military just stayed out of it, I dont think the same thing will happen in Iran
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Reply #15 on: April 03, 2008, 11:00:02 pm
AC-130.. A wall of people cannot stop that..
 

Offline Kosh

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Reply #16 on: April 03, 2008, 11:19:52 pm
A wall of people with portable SAM launchers might. :p
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Hellstryker

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Reply #17 on: April 03, 2008, 11:28:16 pm
 

Offline Kosh

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Reply #18 on: April 03, 2008, 11:39:43 pm
That article is from 2006.


Although if McCain gets into office I have little doubt they will go ahead with this. I recall reading somewhere McCain said "we will exhaust all our options before going to war with Iran" (paraphrased); Bush said exactly the same thing about Iraq in 2002.
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Unknown Target

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Re: War with Iran?
Reply #19 on: April 04, 2008, 12:02:05 am
Could we please either stop the useless banter or get some real information from recent, credible sources in this thread?
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