[Kosh]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7344381.stm

An Italian woman artist who was hitch-hiking to the Middle East dressed as a bride to promote world peace has been found murdered in Turkey.

The naked body of Giuseppina Pasqualino di Marineo, 33, known as Pippa Bacca, was found in bushes near the city of Gebze on Friday.

She had said she wanted to show that she could put her trust in the kindness of local people.

Turkish police say they have detained a man in connection with the killing.

Reports say the man led the police to the body.

There is no god. 

[BloodEagle]

Did she think that that was a good idea? 

There is no god. 

You're right. There is, however, one God. 

[Goober5000]

There is a God.  There are also wicked people.

And stupid ones, judging from this report.  A woman?  Hitchhiking?  To the Middle East?  Dressed as a bride?

I don't know if she was willfully stupid or just naive, but that's a perfect recipe for exactly what happened.

[Flipside]

It was an odd risk to take, I have faith in mankind as whole, but not in any particular member of it, it's kind of overly optimistic to think that the world is a safe place, it isn't, never has been.

Maybe we, as a race, have the possibility of a grand future ahead of us, but I still wouldn't walk down a dark alley in Hackney at 2:30am.

[Rictor]

Definitely not smart for an older woman to do alone. It probably would have turned out differently if the person in question had been a 25 year-old guy, someone who can at least put up a fight. It's a common mistake to assume that just because some place is quaint, charming and traditional, every single person there must hospitable and kind.

[BlackDove]

This story is awesome on so many levels.

And proof, that you can't put your trust in any kind of people, let alone local people.

[Polpolion]

Wow. Just wow.

[Fearless Leader]

The world is a scary place, thats why you carry a Bible in one pocket and 30 rounds of 5.56 Full Metal Jacket in the other. Just in case God decides that you can take care of the problem without divine intervention. 

[BloodEagle]

Definitely not smart for an older woman to do alone. It probably would have turned out differently if the person in question had been a 25 year-old guy, someone who can at least put up a fight. It's a common mistake to assume that just because some place is quaint, charming and traditional, every single person there must hospitable and kind.

Then there would be two bodies, instead of one. And the cause of death would be acute lead poisoning.

[Mefustae]

It probably would have turned out differently if the person in question had been a 25 year-old guy

A 25-year old guy hitchhiking around the middle east wearing a bridal gown? He barely would've made it off the plane!

[Rictor]

Or he could have been mistaken for a Saudi sheikh.

[Mefustae]

Or he could have been mistaken for a Saudi sheikh.

Well in that case, he wouldn't have been let on the plane in the first place.

Zing!

[Kosh]

There is a God.  There are also wicked people.

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?  Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?  Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

-Epicurus

[BloodEagle]

There is a God.  There are also wicked people.

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?  Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?  Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

-Epicurus

2. evil; harmful; injurious: a malevolent inclination to destroy the happiness of others.

 

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It probably would have turned out differently if the person in question had been a 25 year-old guy

A 25-year old guy hitchhiking around the middle east wearing a bridal gown? He barely would've made it off the plane!

 

[Kosh]

2. evil; harmful; injurious: a malevolent inclination to destroy the happiness of others.

My point exactly.

[Goober5000]

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?  Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?  Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

-Epicurus

The flaw in this argument is that it demands that evil be destroyed immediately and/or instantaneously.  The entire span of human history is simply a "grace period" before that actually happens.

[NGTM-1R]

There is a God.  There are also wicked people.

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?  Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?  Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

-Epicurus

2. evil; harmful; injurious: a malevolent inclination to destroy the happiness of others.

 

Look at me trying to apply modern definitions to the speech of someone way back in the B.C. period!

 

[Kosh]

The flaw in this argument is that it demands that evil be destroyed immediately and/or instantaneously.  The entire span of human history is simply a "grace period" before that actually happens.

It isn't really a flaw considering that God is supposed to be "all knowing and benevolent". Indeed, if God has the power, why wait unless it has no will?

[BlackDove]

Kosh, what are you doing?

[Kosh]

The usual blasphemy and heresy.