[FireCrack]

Lilith is a Shivan Mjolnir with engines and defensive batteries...

[Snail]

A Lilith blockade would be pretty hard to push through, eh?

[Mobius]

I don't see why no one is taking in consideration the fact that many table entries in FS2 are "", like the Mentu. The LRed probably was for the Ravana, Demon and Sathanas only. simply didn't create a "MRed" beam or simply forgot about the LRed's recharge time.

That would explain why the Moloch is so weak, LReds would have been an exaggerate option for it. Please remember what these ships do in the main campaign: we have Molochs attacking convoys, small warships and destroyers and just one Lilith attacking a few warships. Game testing probably led to an exaggerate weakening of the Moloch with the Lilith remaining untouched by the power of Balance^TM.

Wait a second, wasn't the Asuras supposed to be a Lilith?

[Snail]

Wait a second, wasn't the Asuras supposed to be a Lilith?

Yeah, but it pawned everything so they changed it to a Cain.

[ShadowGorrath]

A Lilith is so strong to strike fear in FS2. It shows how powerfull the Shivans are in FS2. Meant to scare the player and amaze him/her by the 'Power of the Shivans^TM'.

[Mobius]

Wait a second, wasn't the Asuras supposed to be a Lilith?

Yeah, but it pawned everything so they changed it to a Cain.

The mission would have been more interesting and no, I don't think the Lilith would have won easily.

[Snail]

Well it would have done too much damage anyhow (enough damage to warrant it being toned down).

[Mobius]

More damage than a Cain but not enough to handle two Deimos and Herc II fighters. The beam turret could be easily destroyed.

[Snail]

No, I mean it would do too much damage to the Lysander or Actium, bringing them to around 50%, before the Ravana even arrives.

[Mobius]

Then the mission would have failed before the arrival of the Ravana. So?

[Snail]

The Lilith would have done too much damage. changed it to a Cain for balance reasons, end of story. You can't change history, Mobius!

[Mobius]

Who's changing what?

The Great Hunt is basically a "sit and wait" mission where the player doesn't really change the general scheme of things. It must have been different with a Lilith instead of that Cain.

[Snail]

Well this argument is completely pointless.

[Mobius]

Yes, it was a bit pointless to change the Asuras' ship class.

[Snail]

No, it was pointless to argue about why Volition changed its class when we all know we're both right, but we decided to go on a random rant about random stuff that is inconsequential as to whether or not corn looks similar to Hillary Clinton's ass.

[TrashMan]

I think it just goes to show how the Shivans have superior technology and when they really want to kill a ship quickly they send a well armed cruiser or a couple of well armed cruisers and the Lilith has the power to do it.  Its specialized and superior.  Consider the Sathanas versus the Colossus and the firepower difference there.  Now when you scale it down to an Aeolus versus a Lilith its not all that incredible.

It's still too far out there. The Sathanas isn0t that much better than a Colossus.... the Lilith just doesn't fit with the mold.

[Snail]

I agree with TrashMan on that one. The Lilith is ridiculously overpowered. It's like a superdestroyer.

[IceFire]

I think it just goes to show how the Shivans have superior technology and when they really want to kill a ship quickly they send a well armed cruiser or a couple of well armed cruisers and the Lilith has the power to do it.  Its specialized and superior.  Consider the Sathanas versus the Colossus and the firepower difference there.  Now when you scale it down to an Aeolus versus a Lilith its not all that incredible.

It's still too far out there. The Sathanas isn0t that much better than a Colossus.... the Lilith just doesn't fit with the mold.

Hrrmm I seem to remember the Colossus struggling to take down a disarmed Sathanas and another Sathanas wrecking the Colossus in just a few shots.

[colecampbell666]

I think it just goes to show how the Shivans have superior technology and when they really want to kill a ship quickly they send a well armed cruiser or a couple of well armed cruisers and the Lilith has the power to do it.  Its specialized and superior.  Consider the Sathanas versus the Colossus and the firepower difference there.  Now when you scale it down to an Aeolus versus a Lilith its not all that incredible.

It's still too far out there. The Sathanas isn0t that much better than a Colossus.... the Lilith just doesn't fit with the mold.

The Sath has 4* the beams as the Collie.

[TrashMan]

The Colossus STARTED disabled, with a damaged hull (66% methinks) and had to fight off a destroyer before the Sath arrived...not to mention it was placed JUST outside the range of most of it's beams.

In a 1 on 1 the Saht will win, yes, but the difference between the Sath and Collie is similar to the difference between any terran/vasudan capship and it's shivan counterpart. The Lilith is different tough.