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Offline Azoele

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My quest has not ended yet to play FS2 under the mac  :rolleyes:
Everything is smooth... but for the keyboard: at first, I couldn't understand why some in game functions didn't work, and I later realized (by trying to bind keys to functions) that my MacbookPro keyboard is seen in the strangest way by FS2Open.
First, all the numbers aren't recognized as such (only key 3 is seen, but as a '  .1,2,4,5,6,7,8,9,0 don't get grabbed by FS2. After that,the question mark, ì and backspace work.
Plus, the keyboard is also seen as azerty, while it's a italian qwerty (this could be minor, but the fact that the numbers in the top row don't work makes playing almost impossible. Without issuing orders to the wingmen or calling support many missions become incredibly difficoult or unbalanced. I get a communications window opened, and then nothing! ;)

Is there any way I can explain FS2Open what kind of keyboard I have?

Thanks a lot  :(
(the tear is there because my friends living with me have been getting sound laughters after me and my "Gosh, they helped me! I can finally play FS2!" and then realizing the next problem... :)

Lory
"Talk sense to a fool and he calls you fool" Euripide

 

Offline Azoele

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I answer myself.

It seems Freespace here hits some sort of a bug with SDL, which was encountered also by the people of ScummVM.
I am unfamiliar with the exact problem  (it seems that SDL reports the wrong keypresses; with an Azerty keyboard it needs a Shift+keys on the top row to get a number; on other keyboards the numbers are simply accessible, and to type symbols like % & / you need to Shift+5,+6,+7)

The solution implies turning the keyboard into a French numerical keyboard in System Preferences.
I added a new layout from the preferences, choosing (by chance... :) French Azerty numerical, and there it goes, Freespace now "sees" the numbers and allows me to use communications.

 :)

Lory
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Offline karajorma

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I've seen a few people report this problem in BtRL. I'll pass this info on next time someone asks.
Karajorma's Freespace FAQ. It's almost like asking me yourself.

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Offline Azoele

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I talked too early...   :confused:

It worked just once. It's not working anymore. Incredible as it may seem, Freespace ignores the keyboard setting. Again.
It is very frustrating...
Anyone with a new idea?!
"Talk sense to a fool and he calls you fool" Euripide

 
Hi, All!

My keyboard does not work at all.
Only F1, F2 and Ctrl wokred.
I'm unable to enter callsign.
If using callsign created on PC and transferred to Mac then I can login but unable to control ship but only fire primary weapon.

Need help!!!

 

Offline colecampbell666

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This sounds like a Mac specific bug. Try using a 3.6.10 build (if any are available) and see what happens.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 
I'm tried latest build available for Mac. Some Mac-specific problems gone (including right and bottom borders freeze) but keyboard still malfunction.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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As a person not so familiar with Macs I can't offer any assistance. But it might help those who could, if you provided some specifications on your Mac.
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23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

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20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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Hi i'm noob in Freespace 2 community, and i'm having problem with in-game comm !

I'm having the same issue with my french apple keyboard and my mac.

I would like to know if someone finds a solution. I try to use FSOpen 3.6.9 and 3.6.10 with my keyboard setup as a french numeric and USA numeric.

Can someone help me ?

 

Offline sixlaneve

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same problem here... but with 10.4 it was all fine >(

 
Yeah I forgot to mention, I use Leopard ^^

I google this issue and found nothing. Not even a clue  :confused: !

Help us please 

Edit : Is there a way to edit the keyboard layout in a config file ? i didn't find anything related to this ?
« Last Edit: August 21, 2008, 01:45:44 pm by Mister K »

 

Offline sixlaneve

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but, did you try with some other games?  I noticed that I have the same problem with AA and Quake 4

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Since these problems only concern Macs (and seemingly only Leopard), it probably wouldn't hurt to direct a complaint or two at Apple's direction. Or if some coders here know what to do, knock yourselves out.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 
but, did you try with some other games?  I noticed that I have the same problem with AA and Quake 4

I notice the problem with Starcraft too, I'm not realy a gamer :p

[...]Or if some coders here know what to do[...]

You mean try to edit directly the FSOpen code ?

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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 :nervous: Yes?

But again. People using Leopard encounter the issue. With other games as well. Feedback to Apple would not be wrong.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline sixlaneve

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I so want to go back to Tiger  :(

Anyway... for me it's fixed now. I bought my laptop in UK (so, with English keyboard) but I had the system in my language. I put also the system in British English and now it works fine. (I didn't had this problem with Tiger anyway).

I hope it helps.