[ShivanEmperor]

Why do you think Admiral Aken Bosch hates Vasudans? He stated that he realised that humanity had no future with the vasudans but why? Whats wrong with them? Let me guess... they're scary? Let out your thoughts here.

[Jeff Vader]

He didn't hate Vasudans. He didn't like them either, but he thought that the two races cannot coexist. I'm guessing he only meant that the Terrans and Vasudans can't stand a chance against the Shivans, so an alliance with the Shivans would be a lot more beneficial. Or something.

But he also said it himself. He didn't directly hate the Vasudans, but only used it as an excuse to muster followers and use them to divert the majority of the GTVA from his true intentions.

[Stormkeeper]

Bosch never hated Vasudans. It was, like Lobo said, an excuse. The NTF followers were the ones who truly hated Vasudans. Except with the exception of his closest followers.

[ShadowGorrath]

To ShivanEmperor :


Bosch wanted an alliance with the Shivans. Nothing more to say... Better question would be on what happened to him and his "alliance".

One thing bothers me though- couldn't Bosch just been a good little admiral and, with his followers, simply get everything he wanted SILENTLY and PEACEFULLY ? It'd been much less bloody, and he wouldn't be remembered/known as a madman. But because he's done it so "loudly" ( the whole NTF rebelion ) it only shows that he's not a good leader- rebelion lost, he got "saved" a couple of times by GTVI and SOC ( because both GTVI and SOC wanted to get ETAK ).

[Stormkeeper]

Also ShivanEmperor, you should check this out for another theory on why Bosch used the Vasudans as the scapegoats.

A Journey of the Forgotten

[Colonol Dekker]

Maybe he lost some family back in the TVWar. (Makes me laugh every time i use that term) to be honest though. I don't like them because they walk around nekkid all the dang time.

[ShadowGorrath]

I'm not NTF but I hate the Vasudans too.

[Polpolion]

Same reason that Hitler hates Jews.

[Galemp]

I have a pet theory, but I'm not telling. 

One thing bothers me though- couldn't Bosch just been a good little admiral and, with his followers, simply get everything he wanted SILENTLY and PEACEFULLY ? It'd been much less bloody, and he wouldn't be remembered/known as a madman.

There was a silent threat once before, and we all know how well that went.

[Stormkeeper]

There was a silent threat once before, and we all know how well that went.

Crashed and burned. One question though. The Hades really wasn't finished, so why'd they send it out ....?

[Solatar]

No other options?

[Stormkeeper]

Still ... No weapons ? What kinda last resort was that. Scare us sh*tless with its amazing weaponlessness ?

[Cobra]

Um. It had weapons.

[Colonol Dekker]

Shock and awe. I know it was a while back but i remember thinking. Onoz we all dead! The first time i saw it.

[Mars]

It killed the Orff 

I hope ST:R fixes that.

[Akalabeth Angel]

Because he's a punk

[Droid803]

Bosch doesn't hate Vasudans, he's just using other people's hatred to get his personal army. I doubt the GTVA would let him dig around different places researching ETAK and trying to meet the Shivans again. (particularly the part about the Shivans). The idea of the rebellion was to make sure the GTVA was too busy to realize they're trying to communicate with the Shivans until its too late. (They would never have let the Trinity go to Gamma Drac, for example).

[BloodEagle]

Admiral Bosch did (and maybe still does) hate the Vasudans. He says it in one of the cutscenes.

What my enemies will never understand is that my rebellion is about my love for humanity, not my hatred of Vasudans. In the Gamma Draconis system the destroyers have returned and soon the alliance will learn the method behind my madness.*

Depending on when he became a pilot, he could have fought against the Vasudans before the Great War occurred.

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*The Wiki is a bit off on that quote, by the way.

[Droid803]

Admiral Bosch did (and maybe still does) hate the Vasudans. He says it in one of the cutscenes.

What my enemies will never understand is that my rebellion is about my love for humanity, not my hatred of Vasudans. In the Gamma Draconis system the destroyers have returned and soon the alliance will learn the method behind my madness.*

Depending on when he became a pilot, he could have fought against the Vasudans before the Great War occurred.

[BloodEagle]

Admiral Bosch did (and maybe still does) hate the Vasudans. He says it in one of the cutscenes.

What my enemies will never understand is that my rebellion is about my love for humanity, not my hatred of Vasudans. In the Gamma Draconis system the destroyers have returned and soon the alliance will learn the method behind my madness.*

Depending on when he became a pilot, he could have fought against the Vasudans before the Great War occurred.

He clearly states that he hates Vasudans. The "not" merely signifies that his hatred of them was not the reason why he rebelled against the GTVA.