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Offline ShadowGorrath

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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2008, 02:14:29 pm »
A Knossos can lock down the nodes. You build a Knossos to stop the Shivans.

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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2008, 02:17:13 pm »
A Knossos can lock down the nodes.
:wtf: Since when?
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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2008, 02:18:01 pm »
A Knossos can lock down the nodes. You build a Knossos to stop the Shivans.
That's non-canon.
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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2008, 02:18:26 pm »
A Knossos can lock down the nodes. You build a Knossos to stop the Shivans.
Uh...I don't think they do. They just stabilize, don't they? Turning it off won't destabilize, unless the node was unstable to begin with.
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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2008, 02:26:35 pm »
Might be. But we don't know if the Knossos can also lock down nodes, so you can't fully say that it's not canon. Well, I have the story different about the Knossos in that system anyway.

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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2008, 02:28:58 pm »
Alright, just make sure it doesn't break continuity too much  :P
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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2008, 02:30:02 pm »
Might be. But we don't know if the Knossos can also lock down nodes, so you can't fully say that it's not canon. Well, I have the story different about the Knossos in that system anyway.
We also don't know if the Shivans were just trying to say "Happy holidays!" when they blew Capella up, so you can't fully say that that is not canon.

Feel free to make up your own things on your own campaigns, but don't refer to them in discussions where canon evidence has a high meaning.
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23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2008, 02:31:05 pm »
Might be. But we don't know if the Knossos can also lock down nodes, so you can't fully say that it's not canon. Well, I have the story different about the Knossos in that system anyway.
We also don't know if the Shivans were just trying to say "Happy holidays!" when they blew Capella up, so you can't fully say that that is not canon.

Feel free to make up your own things on your own campaigns, but don't refer to them in discussions where canon evidence has a high meaning.

Alright. But present me with canon evidence that a Knossos can't lock down nodes.

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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2008, 02:33:21 pm »
Because the GTVA decided to blow it up rather than to just shut it off/use it to lock the node in "A Flaming Sword"?
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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2008, 02:35:18 pm »
[sarcasm]Yea, they so made the Knossos gates and fully knew about their functionality. They knew EVERYTHING about the Knossos gates, and had time to shut them down if they knew that.[/sarcasm]

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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2008, 02:46:49 pm »
Alright. But present me with canon evidence that a Knossos can't lock down nodes.
Right after you've presented me with canon evidence that the Vasudans didn't evolve from the platypus.

Or give at least the slightest canon hint towards the locking ability. There were several mentionings about the portals' ability to create a subspace field and stabilize unstable nodes. But nothing about "locking".

Edit: To put it simple and hopefully avoid further arguments... don't say "A Knossos can lock down nodes", but rather "A Knossos might be able to lock down nodes".
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23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2008, 03:13:20 pm »
Alright. I say that a Knossos might lock down nodes, so that might be the reason why the Ancients built a Knossos after the system went supernova. After the supernova that is.

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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2008, 11:43:41 pm »
Interesting how most discussions concerning the nebula, bosch will become discussions about Knossos and eventually, how it works.
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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2008, 11:50:35 pm »
Alright. I say that a Knossos might lock down nodes, so that might be the reason why the Ancients built a Knossos after the system went supernova. After the supernova that is.
How do you know that the system went supernova before they made the Knossos? :rolleyes:
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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2008, 11:57:10 pm »
How do you know that it didn't ?

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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2008, 03:17:25 am »
How do you know that it didn't ?
How do you know that the system went supernova before they made the Knossos? :rolleyes:

You don't. We have no canon information, so let's keep the absolutes out the discussion shall we ?
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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2008, 04:51:17 am »
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How do you know that the system went supernova before they made the Knossos?

Hmmm...maybe because a Supernova might have destroyed the Knossos ?

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How do you know that it didn't ?

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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2008, 04:52:10 am »
How do you know that it didn't ?
How do you know that the system went supernova before they made the Knossos? :rolleyes:

You don't. We have no canon information, so let's keep the absolutes out the discussion shall we ?

As already mentioned, Knossos number 2, that's in the nebula, it wouldn't have survived the nova otherwise, so it must have been constructed after the system went nova.  :rolleyes:
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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2008, 06:33:19 am »
Exactly. There is NO way a knossos could suvive a supernova. Thus system was already a nebula. Since they never identify the nebula in game, i count calling it the Lupus or Crab nebula  speculation and thus non-canon.

I suspect that the Ancients encountered  the shivans somewhere beyond Knossos 3. PEtrach only says that Knossos 1 leads to the area where the shivans were first enountered 8000 years before. No specifics.

Say a humungous Terran-Vasudan battle occured in wolf 359, I could say Ross 128 leads to the area where that battle took place.
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Re: How far away is the Fs2 nebula?
« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2008, 07:17:21 am »
This post is total speculation, if it doesn't fit in the borders of canon, it doesn't. If it does, it does.

I'd say the 1-st Knossos leads out of the Milky Way.
The second one connects that other galaxy with a third one.
And there was a 3-rd Knossos in the "Dive! Dive! Dive!" mission, which leads to...
a place where Shivans are pwning another civilisation with at least 3 Saths (possibly implying they have a jugillion of Saths, and space is full of life)?
Also- if the Shivans are a part of a bigger problem, and they spread across multiple galaxies... what exactly is that bigger problem?
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