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Offline Mad Bomber

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Dropships are almost universally recognized as ships that do orbit to surface work.


But in the FS universe, where specialty ships like that are not needed due to the subspace drive, the "dropship" designation can be given to a different ship class.

It's a lot shorter than "escort carrier", "light carrier", "corvette which happens to have a fighterbay because it would suck otherwise", or any of those other ones. :D
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FS2 Capital Ship Setup:

Cruiser
Corvette
Destroyer
Jugernaught

Real Life (Post WW2) in terms of FS2:

Supply Ship
Frigate
Cruiser
Corvette
Battleship (Which i think is no longer in service since WW2 it was replased by the Destroyer. Battleships were made to replace the old wooden versions of the classic 1792 british flagships with a dozen cannon ball spitting cannons.:devilidea )
Destroyer
Air-Space Craft Carrier

Somewhere between Corvette and Carrier is the Flagship.


New Dawn Resolution in terms of FS2: Smallest to largest.

Cruiser (all)
Corvette - Deimos & Northamptom
Destroyer - All including the XT-01 and 02 Classes
Colony Ship - New Mecca and New Millennium Classes:wtf:
Jugernaught - All

 

Offline Nico

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Originally posted by Mad Bomber


But in the FS universe, where specialty ships like that are not needed due to the subspace drive, the "dropship" designation can be given to a different ship class.

It's a lot shorter than "escort carrier", "light carrier", "corvette which happens to have a fighterbay because it would suck otherwise", or any of those other ones. :D


excepted you're wrong about that subspace thinguy for landing on planets. Just look at the evacuation of Vasuda Prime in FS1. They used transports to land on the planet, not some subspace tech. And air WOULD go through the node. the vibrations are just here to open it, once this is done, anything can go through. Don't believe me? Watch the last FS1 cutscene, with the hercules, the ursas etc goig out of the Lucifer jump hole.
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Offline LtNarol

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Dropship by most people's definition, including mine, is a ship that carries troops/ supplies who's primary roles are to shuttle them from orbit to surface.  The Moloch was designated by Volition to be a corvette, i think they had their reasons.  

I also wouldn't say that volition chose to call it a corvette because they didnt think of a dropship.  Is it not possible that they did think of it, but because fs2 is centered around naval battles/dogfights and not around planetary landings, that they chose not to use dropships because they would be useless in the missions?  Just my 2 cents, im really against the whole notion of dropships being fighter carriers.  

The GTCa Leto from my campaign is a tactical carrier, the size of a cruiser, and the only way anyone will ever get me to call it (much less designate it) a dropship is if Volition decided to make a dropship class for such ships.

 

Offline Mad Bomber

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excepted you're wrong about that subspace thinguy for landing on planets. Just look at the evacuation of Vasuda Prime in FS1. They used transports to land on the planet, not some subspace tech. And air WOULD go through the node. the vibrations are just here to open it, once this is done, anything can go through. Don't believe me? Watch the last FS1 cutscene, with the hercules, the ursas etc goig out of the Lucifer jump hole.


That's because the fighters and bombers were also vibrating in sync with the universe to get into subspace in the first place. Air doesn't. It wouldn't get sucked in. And I don't remember it saying anything about the transports going through the atmosphere to land on the planet. :D

Is EVERYONE against me calling a cruiser-to-corvette-sized-ship-with-a-fighterbay a Dropship? Too bad. It'll be called a dropship in my campaigns anyway. MOLOCH IS A DROPSHIP MOLOCH IS A DROPSHIP!!!! Bwahahahaha :D:p:D:p:D
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Offline LtNarol

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people from Utah... ;) (j/k) call it whatever you will, im just not going for the carrier=dropship.

 

Offline Corsair

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Originally posted by Mad Bomber
Is EVERYONE against me calling a cruiser-to-corvette-sized-ship-with-a-fighterbay a Dropship? Too bad. It'll be called a dropship in my campaigns anyway. MOLOCH IS A DROPSHIP MOLOCH IS A DROPSHIP!!!! Bwahahahaha :D:p:D:p:D


Yes, Bomber, the whole world is against you! :D
Just to put in my two cents...

Let's break down the word shall we? Dropship: first part is drop...Drop as in to go down! as in falling through a planet's atmosphere! second part is ship...means its a ship (hmmm that wasn't too hard the second part.)

So there you have it! A dropship goes down!
Wash: This landing's gonna get pretty interesting.
Mal: Define "interesting".
Wash: *shrug* "Oh God, oh God, we're all gonna die"?
Mal: This is the captain. We have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then... explode.

 
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So there you have it! A dropship goes down!


No no! You're wrong there: a dropship is a ship that goes down. :D
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Right! Who bumped this. I want names. I want dates and I want their head on a plate!
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Offline Turnsky

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Ship classes...new ones???
*looks at Tar-Palantir's last post*

eep... sorry... won't happen again i promise....

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Ship classes...new ones???
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Offline TrashMan

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Ship classes...new ones???
Are you talking about size or classification?

Here's what I think how it should be:(by classification)
ratings: 1-5 (compared to size)

cruiser - small warships built for escort ( aprox. size <300m)
              hull - 4, anti-cap - 3, speed - 5, aaaf - 5
corvette - fire support ships, usualy no fighters (size < 800)
                hull - 4, anti-cap - 3or4, speed - 4, aaaf - 3
frigate - large fire support ships, usualy no fighters (size <1000)
              hull -5, anti-cap - 5, speed - 4, aaaf - 2
destroyer - cross between a carrier and a real warship( s<2500)
                   hull - 4, ant-cap - 4, speed - 3, aaaf - 3, fighters - 3
battlecruiser - no fighters, built for anti-capship battle(size <3000)
                       hull - 5, anti-cap - 5, speed - 3, aaaf - 3
dreadnought - big versions of a destroyer (size < 6000)
                       hull -4, anti-cap - 4, speed - 2, aaaf - 2, fighters -3
battleship - pure warship, built to stand alone (size, aprox. 7000)
                   hull - 5, anti-cap - 5, speed -2, aaaf - 4
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Carriers come in diferrent sizes (from small support carriers to the big heavy carriers) Common stats for all of them are:
 hull - 3, anti-cap - 2or3, speed - 4, aaaf - 2, fighters - 5


NOTE: tis stats are compared to ship size - that means that a destroyer, alltough bigger than a corvette has aprox. the same firepower becoause it carries fighters ( and they require TONS of space. That space, on a corvette is used for more armour, more firepower...)


Small ships:
Transports
Dropships
bombers
gunboats - heavy fighters (with turrets)
heavy fighters
light fighters
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Offline Unknown Target

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Ship classes...new ones???
Um, wtf are you guys doing bumping this thread?
Hell, look at the last post date:

02-27-2002

 

Offline TrashMan

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Ship classes...new ones???
So what?
Opinnions please...on the stuff above:yes:
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Offline karajorma

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So what?
Opinnions please...on the stuff above:yes:


Start a new thread next time or don`t bother discussing things that have been discussed hundreds of times before.

Sound like a fair opinion?
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Offline Shrike

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Originally posted by Turnsky
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eep... sorry... won't happen again i promise....

*runs*:nervous: :shaking: :shaking: :nervous:
Good grief, that was a fourteen month bump. :p
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Offline IceFire

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Ship classes...new ones???
And that definition after 14 months of a dropship as a corvette with a fighter bay is still wrong :D
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Offline Shrike

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In-deed
WE ARE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS. YOU WILL LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR KEYBOARDS. WE WILL ADD YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND VERNACULAR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR FORUMS WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

 

Offline KLINE

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Ship classes...new ones???
Shrike needs to be shot in the face
Freespace is an old game
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