Author Topic: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?  (Read 7522 times)

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Offline ShadowGorrath

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
The Sathanas is going to the jump node leading to Capella !  :wtf:

 

Offline colecampbell666

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
Exactly. The GTVA could have had a fleet at the GD>Capella node that was destroyed before you arrive.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
The point of Bearbaiting was to destroy the Sath's beam cannons before it jumps through the Capella jump node. If it was already in Capella, there would be a paradox and the whole FS universe would collapse on its own weight and reform as Chuck Norris.

And the mission description pretty much states that it takes place in Gamma Drac.
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14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
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14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

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01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

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Offline ShadowGorrath

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
There's a debris field of the fleet.

 

Offline colecampbell666

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
There you have it.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

Offline Kie99

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
Bearbaiting - you jump out, land on the Aquitaine, go through the node on the Aquitaine.
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
There you have it.

So do we agree on the subject now?

1. There was a fleet in Gamma Drac, at the Capella node, that was supposed to stop the Sath. They phailed.
2. The infamous Alpha wing, and some others, went in to destroy beam cannons before the Sath could jump to Capella.
3. The Infamous Alpha wing went after the Sath to Capella.
4. Bearbaiting did not occur in Capella.

Bearbaiting - you jump out, land on the Aquitaine, go through the node on the Aquitaine.
I was just thinking the same thing.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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Offline ShadowGorrath

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
In High Noon ( mission after Bearbaiting ) it's Capella, the Sath is near the node to Gamma Draconis, that it just jumped out of. If the player would have been to the Aquitaine ( but at that time it was the Terran-Vasudan Officer Exchange Program, so it was the Psamtik that the player was stationed on ) then the Aquitaine would have been behind the Sath in that mission. So no. It's an inconsistency.

 

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
Bearbaiting definitely occurred in Gamma Draconis. You can see the jump node Labeled "Capella". That is enough proof in itself.
The player, after destroying the Beleth, jumped back to the Psamtik, which followed the Sathanas to Capella, and then deployed Alpha wing to finish things off (or just watch the Colly beam the Sath to death) in High Noon. Why alpha wing got to the Colly before the Sath is because they got new Bahkas, while the Sathanas had to recharge its jump drives.

There was a fleet on both sides of the node. The one in Gamma Drac was wiped out (Pheonicia), the one on the other end was wiped out by the Sathanas if you failed to get all four beam cannons. Otherwise, there was no fleet there at all...so it would seem.

That makes the most sense. It would be stupid to have a node from Capella leading to Capella where the Sath jumps into.  :lol:
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Offline Stormkeeper

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
Something just popped into my mind. The mission where you're part of the 135th Barracudas, and you're testing the stealth fighters with Delta wing? You get ambushed, and the Delta are ordered to return to the Aquitaine. Do they jump out or dock with her?  Anyone know ?
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Offline Droid803

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
Well, you can set departure method to be docking bay in FRED for AI wings. I'm guessing it works, so they probably fly into the Aquitaine. I don't know though, being in the Nebula and all.
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Offline blowfish

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
Quote
$Name: Delta
...
$Departure Location: Docking Bay
$Departure Anchor: Aquitaine

Delta wing should depart through the Aquitaine's fighterbay.

 

Offline S-99

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
I dont remember any missions in the main campaigns where you leave a mission by enter fighterbays...As far as i'm aware, thats TBP only...maybe some other Mods as well...

My opinion is that you launch from your base-ship (Bastion/Galatea/Krios/Soyukaze/Aquitane/Psamtik/Memphis...Delete where applicable)

Then after the mission, you jump back to it's co-ordinates

In which case after you're back at your coordinates you'd perform a landing at your base ship. It's not that the missions in fs have inconsistencies, it's just that V did without landing and launching scenes for A1. You play missions where you see fightering exiting a destroyer through from the fighter bays. And in one mission you get to see an escape pod return to an orion's fighterbay via the runway in fs1. There you go, you now know the drill for when you warp in and out. You start a mission, you take off, jump from your base ship to the mission coordinates...A1 saves the day, you jump back to your base ship and perform a landing.
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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
Yeah but given that end-mission is an SCP SEXP it wasn't so easy back then. :)

So use the red alert mission one
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Offline Wobble73

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
Fighters are only able to jump intrasystem in FS1. Later in the FS2 campaign, fighters are fitted with intersystem jump drives.
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Offline Snail

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
Fighters are only able to jump intrasystem in FS1. Later in the FS2 campaign, fighters are fitted with intersystem jump drives.
No, fighters were given inter-system subspace drives in late FS1.

 

Offline ShadowGorrath

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
Inter-system drives are special issue ! They're way too expensive for standart issue. In FS2, you were given them only a couple of times.

 

Offline Snail

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
Yeah? I never said anything about them being standard issue.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
As an interesting side note, there seems to be another canon inconsistency between FS1 and FS2. In FS2, it is indeed stated that intersystem jump drives for fighters are ****ing expensive and therefore reserved for special cases. But in FS1, when the technological discovery was made, I do remember that old hag Shima explaining in a command briefing that intersystem drives are being installed on all ships. I could be wrong so I shall check the missions quickly. But I guess that in this case, as well as in all the other cases, anything said in FS2 is more canon than a comflicting statement in FS1.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Offline ShadowGorrath

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Re: Where do ships jump to? Inconsistencies?
No. Shima said that the upgraded drives are being installed. You get inter-system ones though.