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More problems with my PC...
The problems I have been experiencing for a while are pretty worrying now.  :(

Until a few days ago, the monitor randomly became black and displayed a box with "Not optimum mode - recommended mode is 1280*1024 60Hz" or something like that. Now it happens shortly after I turn the PC on: I'm posting this because, thanks to some kind of miracle, the PC is running as it did before(it's somewhat slower, however). Yesterday I didn't manage to run it at all and I'm afraid my attempts could definitely damage the PC.  :(

Galemp told me that the problem might be caused by an inefficient energy supply and he might be right. What do I need to do to solve the problem?  :(

EDIT: My monitor's an LCD, Samsung SyncMaster 913n. I hope that might help.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2008, 06:42:12 am by Mobius »
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Re: More problems with my PC...
Get a new PSU?
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Re: More problems with my PC...
A new what?
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Re: More problems with my PC...
Power Supply Unit, or "alimentatore" in Italian.
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Re: More problems with my PC...
Something that resembles this.
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Re: More problems with my PC...
Power Supply Unit
That, or Phantasy Star Universe, according to Wikipedia.

Basically, the thing in your computer where you connect your power cord.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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Re: More problems with my PC...
Basically, the thing in your computer where you connect your power cord.

Please translate this, Dysko.

Are you sure that would solve the problem, anyway?
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Re: More problems with my PC...
Basically, the thing in your computer where you connect your power cord.

Please translate this, Dysko.

Are you sure that would solve the problem, anyway?

The power supply unit is what we call "alimentatore" in Italian. Lobo said "è quel pezzo del tuo computer a cui attacchi il cavo della corrente". Ghostavo even posted an image, you should have understood by now :p
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Re: More problems with my PC...
Basically, the thing in your computer where you connect your power cord.

Please translate this, Dysko.

Are you sure that would solve the problem, anyway?

If you're getting allot of different problems that don't seem to be specific to one part then its probably the power supply (PSU = power supply unit).  You'll need a new one.  Do research and don't buy the cheapest PSU available as they all vary in quality.  Look specifically at the amount of wattage they can put out.  I have a 550W power supply which is good enough for my system.  Depending on your system you may be able to get away with less or you might need more power.  Having more is a better thing with PSU's as its better for them not to be operating at full capacity.
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Re: More problems with my PC...
Basically, the thing in your computer where you connect your power cord.

Please translate this, Dysko.

Are you sure that would solve the problem, anyway?

The power supply unit is what we call "alimentatore" in Italian. Lobo said "è quel pezzo del tuo computer a cui attacchi il cavo della corrente". Ghostavo even posted an image, you should have understood by now :p
Hmph. I could have done that too. With the almighty Babel Fish. Just listen:

Basicamente, la cosa in vostro calcolatore in cui collegate la vostra lavapiatti viola della scimmia del cavo di alimentazione.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
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Re: More problems with my PC...
Sorry if I write in Italian but I'm a bit confused...

Non capisco, sembra che uno stia parlando della ciabatta mentre l'altro parla dell'alimentatore(che, per quanto ne so, sono due cose diverse). Che cosa devo comprare, esattamente? Avevo pensato di comprare una ciabatta nuova, anche se il problema non è correlato a lei un eventuale acquisto sarebbe una cosa buona, giusto? La ciabatta costa pochissimo mentre l'alimentatore sembra una parte più "tecnica", con un costo che a mio parere dovrebbe essere di gran lunga superiore. Non ne capisco molto e mi dispiace, ma vorrei risolvere il problema perchè staccare la spina ogni volta non è proprio consigliabile.

:nervous:


If you're getting allot of different problems that don't seem to be specific to one part then its probably the power supply (PSU = power supply unit).  You'll need a new one.  Do research and don't buy the cheapest PSU available as they all vary in quality.  Look specifically at the amount of wattage they can put out.  I have a 550W power supply which is good enough for my system.  Depending on your system you may be able to get away with less or you might need more power.  Having more is a better thing with PSU's as its better for them not to be operating at full capacity.

What do you recommend me to do? I'm afraid I can't spend more than 70€.

Basicamente, la cosa in vostro calcolatore in cui collegate la vostra lavapiatti viola della scimmia del cavo di alimentazione.

:lol:

Don't use that tool anymore!

:lol:
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Re: More problems with my PC...
Ok, Mobius doesn't know if he has to buy a new PSU or a new multiple cables connector. He says he has no problem in buying a new multiple cables connector, but buying a new PSU seems too "technical" and expensive for him. Well, I bought my 500 W PSU for 50 € and it never gave me any problem.

Basicamente, la cosa in vostro calcolatore in cui collegate la vostra lavapiatti viola della scimmia del cavo di alimentazione.

:lol:

Don't use that tool anymore!

:lol:

Err... I think he wrote that on purpose :p
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Re: More problems with my PC...
Ok, Mobius doesn't know if he has to buy a new PSU or a new multiple cables connector. He says he has no problem in buying a new multiple cables connector, but buying a new PSU seems too "technical" and expensive for him. Well, I bought my 500 W PSU for 50 € and it never gave me any problem.
So it's a typical scenario. Moby starts a thread explaining that he has issues with his computer, then the friendly people here explain what the problem is and how it can be fixed and then Moby says "No". Again.

Err... I think he wrote that on purpose :p
... No, I just translated the phrase with Babel Fish, like I said. (Though I did add "purple monkey dishwasher" at the end, just for kicks.)
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

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Re: More problems with my PC...
"Moby" wants to be sure.

By the way, Wolfy, try to understand my point of view: I can't spend something like 50€ and find out that nothing changed. It's not like DLing a certain build of FS Open instead of another, it's a matter of money here. I want to be sure because I don't want to complain.

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Re: More problems with my PC...
Well, if you want absolute and undisputed cerainty, good luck. Ain't gonna happen.

If you are willing to concider the most likely option, then it's probably the PSU. As it has been stated on a few occasions on this thread. As well as on this thread. And as it has been stated by you as well on that thread. 8-9 years is disturbingly much for any electronic device, and a PSU is not an exception.

If you want to try some elimination methods, you could try to find out if it would be possible to temporarily borrow a PSU from a friend. If that works, you'll know that your PSU is the cuplrit. If not, you'll just start concidering other options.

And 50e? That doesn't qualify as "a lot of money". Sure, good dough, but even a half-decent mp3 player will cost at least twice as much. Just lay off the booze and/or skip 2-3 Eros Ramazotti albums and you're alright. j/k
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

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Re: More problems with my PC...
It's more like "I want to know someone else's opinion": the more people post the better it is.

Dysko told me that his connector was 15 years old and works fine so I got even more confused.

One question: PSUs are universal or I need to buy a specific model for my PC? In other words I need to go personally or I can send a relative with poor knowledge of computers?


And 50e? That doesn't qualify as "a lot of money".

It does when you have no economical support. If I say that the PC might get broken if I don't buy a PSU I wouldn't get help, believe me.
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It's more like "I want to know someone else's opinion": the more people post the better it is.
You could deliver your rig to your local computer dealer. They'll surely figure the problem out. And charge for their services accordingly.

It does when you have no economical support.
Get a job. A job is a great way to make money. Or robbing old ladies on the street.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

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Re: More problems with my PC...
Mobius, do the following:

Start > Run > type in: DXDIAG

Use the button to save everything as a .txt file, copy and paste it to these forums.  I'll tell you what PSU wattage you need and if yours is underpowered.

 

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Re: More problems with my PC...
Done.

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Re: More problems with my PC...
One question: PSUs are universal or I need to buy a specific model for my PC? In other words I need to go personally or I can send a relative with poor knowledge of computers?

They are universal in the sense that they all supply power to the various components of a PC in a standardised way. Short answer, yes. That said, normally it's not advisable to send a relative with poor knowledge of computers to buy ANYTHING computer related. They would probably bring you connector cables and be left with a puzzled expression when you face palmed yourself.

See if you have a spare computer with a PSU or have a friend who's into computers lend you a PSU like Lobo said.
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