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Answer me this--skipping missions glitch- jump 5 times, and forced to fly again
I've held my tongue, and lurked for ages, never having the ability to skip missions, despite the dialogue box that appears upon 5 consecutive miserable failures.

Yes, I've played freespace 2 for five bloody years without a functioning level skip feature. I'm persistent, all right?

But this last mission...it was criminal, what happened to me. I will not withstand such betrayal again, and I completed every second of the mission. it must be skipped. SKIPPED, I say!

But woe is me, when I jump 5 times and click skip, nothing happens. I'm thrown back to the wolves, and forced to play the mission again- as though the option had never been presented to me. Don't bother asking which campaign, it's EVERY campaign.  I've searched the forums for quite a while now, and I have found no solution.

In the past, I have just bucked up, thrown myself back into my battered cockpit,  flown again, and emerged (after much pain) victorious, bypassing the issue. No longer. not this time.

Help me, Hard Light Community, you're my only hope!

"Do you plunder?"
"I have been known to plunder..."
"I refer ye t' darkstar one, one o' th' newer big budget spacers - it's lack o' variety were bein' insultin', an' th' mechanics weren't polished at all.  Every time a title like wot comes out, it pushes th' return o' th' space shooter genre further down th' sea." - Talk like a pirate day '09
"Hope for the best, expect the worst." -Heinlein

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Answer me this--skipping missions glitch- jump 5 times, and forced to fly again
So, um. I think I didn't fully understand. Do you mean that skipping mission never works or that it doesn't work on the last mission of a campaign? Retail or Open? If Open, what build?
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
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Offline colecampbell666

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Re: Answer me this--skipping missions glitch- jump 5 times, and forced to fly again
This happens to me. I press skip, and it sends me back to the mission. This appears to only happen with newer builds and possibly the INF build of TBP.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Answer me this--skipping missions glitch- jump 5 times, and forced to fly again
Hmm. Curious. Shoud probably do some testing.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 
Re: Answer me this--skipping missions glitch- jump 5 times, and forced to fly again
Hmm. Curious. Shoud probably do some testing.

You sound genuinely suprised,  so I gather this is a rather rare thing.  the oddest part, for me at least, is that while the condition/disease/plague/curse/scourge ahem problem rears its head two or three times when I do a search here, a solution/workaround is never posted, because there's always another, more vital (and presumably more interesting) problem to troubleshoot.

So, um. I think I didn't fully understand. Do you mean that skipping mission never works or that it doesn't work on the last mission of a campaign? Retail or Open? If Open, what build?

my apologies, I do get a little...loquacious when I'm irritable.  skipping missions has not worked for me for at least 4 builds, on any campaign, under any cicrumstances, and this last mission was so brutal, and I performed so well, and was betrayed so shamelessly, that I don't wish to fly it again.
 I don't update often, I stick with a stable build until a new feature comes out, then I lurk for a while, you get the idea.  FSOpen for the win, current build is fs2_open_trunk_r as compiled on 07/11/08, but I do not remember which author/thread it came from,. just that it professed to have normal mapping enabled and was stable. I keep 3.6.9 in my directory as backup.
The only non-standard thing I do regarding my freespace 2 setup is that the mediavp's do not have their own folder, they're in root.  everything else is compartmentalized, as it should be. no unusual flags. no debug errors or reports popping up.
any thoughts?
"Do you plunder?"
"I have been known to plunder..."
"I refer ye t' darkstar one, one o' th' newer big budget spacers - it's lack o' variety were bein' insultin', an' th' mechanics weren't polished at all.  Every time a title like wot comes out, it pushes th' return o' th' space shooter genre further down th' sea." - Talk like a pirate day '09
"Hope for the best, expect the worst." -Heinlein

 

Offline Wanderer

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Re: Answer me this--skipping missions glitch- jump 5 times, and forced to fly again
Looking at the code i'm not exactly surprised that it wouldn't work. I might be able to fix that issue. However if you have knowledge of FS Open builds (versions, timestamps) in which the option worked it might help in resolving this issue.
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Re: Answer me this--skipping missions glitch- jump 5 times, and forced to fly again
I'll dig through my archive and see if I can find a build where it worked, but I'm not confident - I can't even remember the last time I tried to skip a mission in this manner and was successful. I need sleep, will try to provide a more substantive response tomorrow.
"Do you plunder?"
"I have been known to plunder..."
"I refer ye t' darkstar one, one o' th' newer big budget spacers - it's lack o' variety were bein' insultin', an' th' mechanics weren't polished at all.  Every time a title like wot comes out, it pushes th' return o' th' space shooter genre further down th' sea." - Talk like a pirate day '09
"Hope for the best, expect the worst." -Heinlein

 

Offline Wanderer

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Re: Answer me this--skipping missions glitch- jump 5 times, and forced to fly again
I took a longer look at the code and found out that my initial idea what was wrong proved to be wrong.. The mission skipping worked just as it should have in my tests (failing bearbeating five times a row by fast forwarding the time). I'm gonna more info to solve this problem.. assuming there anything to be solved.

You could try the new builds from the Recent Builds subforum and see if the problem persists with those builds as well.
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Re: Answer me this--skipping missions glitch- jump 5 times, and forced to fly again
My build is quite recent, and I'd be surprised if the problem has just resolved itself.

I think going in the opposite direction would yield better results.

in regards to glitches and compatibility issues, how far 'back' can I go and where can I find a much older build? all it really has to be able to do is get into a mission and out of it.

Perhaps just keeping an old build on hand would be a sufficient workaround.
"Do you plunder?"
"I have been known to plunder..."
"I refer ye t' darkstar one, one o' th' newer big budget spacers - it's lack o' variety were bein' insultin', an' th' mechanics weren't polished at all.  Every time a title like wot comes out, it pushes th' return o' th' space shooter genre further down th' sea." - Talk like a pirate day '09
"Hope for the best, expect the worst." -Heinlein