[FUBAR-BDHR]

If you have more than one PC at more than one location and decide to play at say 3am you have to get dressed and run next door to get the darn CDs.  If your ambitious enough to actually do that then of course you forget to take them back. 

Another thing that pisses me off about it is you can't mount them on a network drive for just such an occasion.  I used to have 51 CD drives on my old server so I could just load up CDs (mostly for my BBS back then) and still had to buy one for each computer (it was the floppy days) just to play games. 

[Androgeos Exeunt]

I don't understand the logic of copy protection.

I don't even like the fact that there are almost no games for my Mac at my local retailer.

Maybe I've been watching Steal This Film too many times...

[Al Tarket]

ahh dont worry, blizzard have starcraft 2 and diablo 3 coming out soon which also goes on mac along with window and maybe linux?.

anyhow, maybe the whole point is money related, or you bought it and you want a refund however you opened the box which voids the refund and now you cant take it back and you find out it faulty... where if you download via torrents then you get to play it without much trouble, and as said above or previous page, viruses and trojans are a possibility however go find a crack without that and your done.

however i dont think its is appropriate for anyone to say illegal software is better even so, you get caught your behind the bars paying up money to get yourself out of the 4x4 room with bars and on suite buckets .

[Nuke]

some years ago it was usually the customer was always right, that's been replaced with **** off and give us your money, *****! the real way to avoid piracy is for a games company to keep a clean public image. business ethics have gone out the window somewhere in the last 50 or so years.

there have been instances where game companys respected the wishes of their buyers. take starcraft. there was an optional multi only install for people wanting to run lan parties. nowadays you buy a multiplayer game and if you want to run a lan party, fat chanvce, they want you to buy 10 of them. lan partys arent something you can hold every day, the moving of computers around, the cost of powering 10 or so gaming rigs, beer and snacks. and look at the binifit of the game company, youve essentially staged an exhibition of their software and possibly some players would go out and buy that game. there was galciv 2, i bought that game for my brother in law (not really my genre), simply because i respected their attempt at buisness ethics. thats truely how piracy will be stopped.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

some years ago it was usually the customer was always right, that's been replaced with **** off and give us your money, *****! the real way to avoid piracy is for a games company to keep a clean public image. business ethics have gone out the window somewhere in the last 50 or so years.

there have been instances where game companys respected the wishes of their buyers. take starcraft. there was an optional multi only install for people wanting to run lan parties. nowadays you buy a multiplayer game and if you want to run a lan party, fat chanvce, they want you to buy 10 of them. lan partys arent something you can hold every day, the moving of computers around, the cost of powering 10 or so gaming rigs, beer and snacks. and look at the binifit of the game company, youve essentially staged an exhibition of their software and possibly some players would go out and buy that game. there was galciv 2, i bought that game for my brother in law (not really my genre), simply because i respected their attempt at buisness ethics. thats truely how piracy will be stopped.

I bet most companies are droning the phrase "the money", emphasising and repeating the "-ey" over and over again.

I do not like copy protection, and I absolutely detest product keys. Windows Vista, from what I heard, is extremely slow. Look: Microsoft should just take a leaf from Apple and code an operating system that works like a charm.

[Nuke]

the reason that apples operating system works like a charm is because its taylored specifically to the hardware issued. you put that os with hacks onto a pc and youve essentially taken away that quality control aspect of their system designs. while i detest name brand computers, and would never be caught dead using one, one thing they tend to have in common is they ****ing last forever, provided you don't tinker with its hardware too much.

[Spicious]

I do not like copy protection, and I absolutely detest product keys. Windows Vista, from what I heard, is extremely slow. Look: Microsoft should just take a leaf from Apple and code an operating system that works like a charm.

Nice segue there. Straight from product keys into windows bashing hearsay. But you're quite right; Microsoft should give up on trying to write their own kernel and use someone else's too.

[Al Tarket]

well if that happened, bill gates wouldn't have anyone to rip off . wouldn't that be a shame .

[BloodEagle]

well if that happened, bill gates wouldn't have anyone to rip off . wouldn't that be a shame .

Because Bill Gates, with his multi-billion dollar fortune, sits in front of a desk and codes. 

Now quit bastardizing Godwin's Law and get back on topic. 

[Nuke]

rectos will eventually end that monopoly!

[Agent_Koopa]

Um, what exactly did Ubisoft do? I've been missing sleep and my eyes are too tired to comprehend the post.

[Al Tarket]

ubisoft stole a crack from a torrent site, and used it in rainbow 6:v2. what the funny thing is though, ubisoft hates any talk of pirated software being talked about on their site. the real irony is ubisoft never knew how good it is to use pirated software until then, what a contradiction .

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Perhaps they think that it's perfectly legal for them to use a crack, since they can't theoretically sue themselves...

[karajorma]

To be fair it probably is legal for them to do it.

The fact that UBISoft used a hack to solve a problem only bothers me for two reasons.

1) It worries me that the programmers there can't code the fix themselves.
2) It's pretty annoying if they've been banning people from the forums who have suggested the hack as a solution to whatever the bug is if they ended up doing the same thing themselves.

[Al Tarket]

which only makes the problem worse. to say they dont have the resources to create a code would be rather strange considering Ubi is a huge game company. no i think they are taking shortcuts to deflect the time, energy and money involved. but what i dont understand is why they ban others because of the exact thing ubi went against and turns out their using after that.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

which only makes the problem worse. to say they dont have the resources to create a code would be rather strange considering Ubi is a huge game company. no i think they are taking shortcuts to deflect the time, energy and money involved. but what i dont understand is why they ban others because of the exact thing ubi went against and turns out their using after that.

...that is if they do ban people in the first place. Perhaps many people suggested that they should do it, so they finally gave in.

[Al Tarket]

probably an internal matter. could look bad on their portfolio compared to some company like ea or irrational games.

[BloodEagle]

To be fair it probably is legal for them to do it.

The fact that UBISoft used a hack to solve a problem only bothers me for two reasons.

1) It worries me that the programmers there can't code the fix themselves.
2) It's pretty annoying if they've been banning people from the forums who have suggested the hack as a solution to whatever the bug is if they ended up doing the same thing themselves.

I'm pretty sure that it's still illegal. Something about circumventing copyright protection (even their own) in the DMCA.

Of course, it could never get to the point of a suit. You'd have to be completely insane to even try.

[blackhole]

To be fair it probably is legal for them to do it.

The fact that UBISoft used a hack to solve a problem only bothers me for two reasons.

1) It worries me that the programmers there can't code the fix themselves.
2) It's pretty annoying if they've been banning people from the forums who have suggested the hack as a solution to whatever the bug is if they ended up doing the same thing themselves.

I'm pretty sure that it's still illegal. Something about circumventing copyright protection (even their own) in the DMCA.

Of course, it could never get to the point of a suit. You'd have to be completely insane to even try.

Distributing an illegal crack is illegal on multiple fronts, for multiple reasons. Ubisoft has just shoved a gun into their mouth.

[Agent_Koopa]

Oh, okay, so they had to circumvent their own copy-protection, and got a crack to do it. I understand now, after I finally read the article.