[karajorma]

You asked about shooting threads. Pretty hard to have them when no one has a gun.

[Mika]

Found these by browsing through the links offered in bugs&glitches -thread in gaming forum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0YXfx2bngw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4l0qeWlURM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1qdiufT5mI&feature=related

Seriously, what the hell?

Mika

[BengalTiger]

Because the 2nd Amendment is why you have so many of them. That and the fact that unlike the Swiss or Canadians, Americans obviously can't be trusted with guns.

I personally trust Americans with guns a lot more than with...

cars...

The caliber of dumb@$$es that can get a driver's licence here is far larger than anything I could have previously imagined.
At least the exam is a good joke though: no first aid questions or tests IIRC, yes 'penalties for DUI' style questions (and there's lots to remember, however it doesn't affect your driving skills at all), no driving faster than 35 MPH (at least in my case), yes driving slower than 20 MPH for half of the exam, etc.

[karajorma]

Feel free to prevent Americans from owning cars too if you wish. The rest of the world would thank you for the fall in petrol prices.

[MP-Ryan]

Feel free to prevent Americans from owning cars too if you wish. The rest of the world would thank you for the fall in petrol prices.

It would bring prices up.  Most petroleum-producing companies are based loosely in the United States, which is also their biggest consumer.  Prices would be driven up elsewhere to compensate for the loss of their biggest market.

[Snail]

Found these by browsing through the links offered in bugs&glitches -thread in gaming forum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0YXfx2bngw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4l0qeWlURM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1qdiufT5mI&feature=related

Seriously, what the hell?

Mika

Super Columbine Massacre RPG? That's ****ing sick. Jesus Christ. What kind of wanker would make that game?

[karajorma]

It would bring prices up.  Most petroleum-producing companies are based loosely in the United States, which is also their biggest consumer.  Prices would be driven up elsewhere to compensate for the loss of their biggest market.

Except that it isn't the oil companies who set the price of crude oil. It's set by OPEC and the US isn't even a member.

Although they might respond to lowered demand by extracting less it's doubtful that they would do it quickly enough to keep prices at the artificially high levels they are at the moment. In fact given that the current high price is caused by speculation that the OPEC nations have very little excess pumping capacity it's highly unlikely that even if they restricted the amount of oil they extract they could support the price at it's current level.

[Snail]

Although they might respond to lowered demand by extracting less it's doubtful that they would do it quickly enough to keep prices at the artificially high levels they are at the moment. In fact given that the current high price is caused by speculation that the OPEC nations have very little excess pumping capacity it's highly unlikely that even if they restricted the amount of oil they extract they could support the price at it's current level.

Wrong "its" there, but makes lotsa sense.

[karajorma]

Bah, I got it right 3 times and got a typo once on a possessive case.

[BloodEagle]

Found these by browsing through the links offered in bugs&glitches -thread in gaming forum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0YXfx2bngw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4l0qeWlURM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1qdiufT5mI&feature=related

Seriously, what the hell?

Mika

Super Columbine Massacre RPG? That's ****ing sick. Jesus Christ. What kind of wanker would make that game?

That insult was lamer than FDR's legs.

[Mefustae]

Found these by browsing through the links offered in bugs&glitches -thread in gaming forum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0YXfx2bngw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4l0qeWlURM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1qdiufT5mI&feature=related

Seriously, what the hell?

Mika

Super Columbine Massacre RPG? That's ****ing sick. Jesus Christ. What kind of wanker would make that game?

That insult was lamer than FDR's legs.

Although I agree with you; too soon, man. Too soon.

[Ghostavo]

To be honest, this presents a rather curious argument, if WW2 games are "fair game" and the numerous middle eastern crysis are "fair game" why shouldn't these type of things be "fair game"?

[Mefustae]

To be honest, this presents a rather curious argument, if WW2 games are "fair game" and the numerous middle eastern crysis are "fair game" why shouldn't these type of things be "fair game"?

Looking at it objectively, it's just another case of blatant western hypocrisy. When the subject matter hits a little too close to home for some people, suddenly it's in 'bad taste'. When it comes to basing games based on real events, past or present, what exactly qualifies as taboo? Is there even a credible line dividing what should and shouldn't be made?

When you get right down to it, making a videogame is just another expression of free speech, and we can no more silence the maker of Super Columbine RPG than we can someone speaking their mind at a public forum.

[Mars]

Because most games don't have to do with shooting up completely innocent and random teenagers, be it in the US, China, or the Middle East.

I have yet to see a "Super Madrasah Shoot-up" yes, COD4 involves a war in the Middle East with strong parellels to the war the US cooked up, but you'll notice the point of the game isn't to shoot up kids.

EDITED IN HOURS AFTER THE FACT:

Thus, this is not a case of Western hypocrisy. It's perfectly reasonable to be offended by Columbine games.

Columbine High School BTW, is full of rich people, in a rich little segment of Denver (called Littleton) in case anyone was curious.

If that sort of thing had happened at Montbello High, in the armpit of the 'burbs out here no one would have heard about it; a student gets killed every year at that school, starting in 1980, so that's 28 students.

[BloodEagle]

Wasn't there a movie capitalizing on the deaths of everyone onboard the planes that struck the World Trade Center buildings?

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Note to self: The topic has (un)officially been changed.

[Hellstryker]

Found these by browsing through the links offered in bugs&glitches -thread in gaming forum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0YXfx2bngw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4l0qeWlURM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1qdiufT5mI&feature=related

Seriously, what the hell?

Mika

Old news. sick and disgusting and wrong, but old. Also, make a new topic if you want to debate violent movies and video games.

[Snail]

To be honest, this presents a rather curious argument, if WW2 games are "fair game" and the numerous middle eastern crysis are "fair game" why shouldn't these type of things be "fair game"?

Nobody here's going to say "It's going to incite violence", but there are other reasons.