[Hazaanko]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080728/D926QMU00.html
http://www.cuil.com

Pronounced "Cool"

The engine seems a bit slow at the moment.  Could be it just opened today?  "Bugs" to work out?

[Al Tarket]

i dont like google, its too imprecise, a bit like ebay when you ask for an ATI graphics cards and come up with XTX Nvidia 9600GTX 512mb

[karajorma]

Not replacing Google till it gets faster and better and that's for damn sure.

People forget the reason why Google achieved dominance and that was quite simply that it was bloody fast at getting you the results you are after. All the engines it paved over were much slower and much worse at actually finding a good link. As for these guys, compare the results when I tried something which would be on the net but wasn't hugely popular, an Amiga computer game called Warhead.

Google - Lots of hits, most of them relevant to what I was after.

Cuil - No hits

And that was only the second search I tried!

[Al Tarket]

WARHEADS!!!!? loved that game.

google doesn't have my vote, i even prefer windows limited live search. enough said on my part.

[Kie99]

Over 3 minutes to do one search...not impressed.

[Ghostavo]

Speed doesn't seem to be much of an issue here, both are nearly imediate, although I can't say much because I'm browsing with links at the moment. One thing I can say for certain, cuil seems to be more clumsy to use with links (and perhaps any other console based browser). The line format search is there for a reason.

[Mars]

Google - Loads immediately
Cuil - Doesn't load after 5 minutes

I think I'm sticking to Google.

[Hazaanko]

I'm not too impressed so far either.  even if everything was working the way it should, I'm not really a big fan of the 'magazine' style layout.

I'll give it some time though.  it just started today, so there's bound to be some major improvements.  It just doesn't seem to be working half the time right now.

[Daeron]

It's running pretty slow for me, but I'm guessing that with the media hype, they're getting a lot of visitors. Just hope they won't get used to it...

The layout... not sure what the idea behind it is. The few sites that do appear on the first page get fancy pictures and a brief summary. So I'm inclined to assume they're planning to make the same mistakes all over again and have sites pay money to get on the first page.

[karajorma]

The point I made earlier though is if they really want to be a rival to Google they have to be able to deal with the slashdot/digg effect. If the fact that they got a lot of attention is enough to slow them to a crawl that in and of itself makes the whole thing worthless.

[Bobboau]

performance is simply due to servers, more money=more servers, so after they make some profit, performance will not be an issue, what will be an issue is ther results, if they cannot get better results than google they are doomed.

and the reason google crushed everyone else was not speed but number of results, everyone else would only return a few links for some topics, google you could give it the most crazy obscure subject and it'd return fifty bajillion results, that's what made google popular, not it's speed.

[Daeron]

Actually, not having to load dozens of jpeg's and flash junk every time you needed to search for something played a big part. The amount of people with a reasonably fast internet connection back when Google started was a lot lower. And to be frank, it's still one of the things I love about Google and G-mail.

[Excalibur]

Well, 121,617,892,992 websites may have its limits - Google comes up with about a sixth of that for the letter a, same for e,1,) etc...

Search: Google - Google:   2,650,000,000              (0.06 seconds)
             Google - Cuil     :              712,000              (0.05 seconds)

             Cuil - Google:           516,386,388
             Cuil - Cuil                         121,578

Don't know if this means anything....

[blackhole]

I massively prefer google over any other search engine due to its accuracy and its simplistic layout. As a minimalist, I abhor all the fancy graphics the rest of the search engines do. Google shoves a crapload of information into 10 easy to read links. There is a reason I have it set as my home page instead of the other searches - and it *is* faster.

[WMCoolmon]

So one new search engine comes out and Google is automatically going to get outcompeted?

http://www.yahoo.com

The next Google?

[karajorma]

performance is simply due to servers, more money=more servers, so after they make some profit, performance will not be an issue, what will be an issue is ther results, if they cannot get better results than google they are doomed.

They had $30m in venture capital between them and if that couldn't get them fast enough servers then they're going to have to make a **** load of money before they'll get new ones. But no one is going to bother with them unless they do get faster. Why would anyone bother waiting a minute for them to retrieve results when Google does the same in 5 seconds?

and the reason google crushed everyone else was not speed but number of results, everyone else would only return a few links for some topics, google you could give it the most crazy obscure subject and it'd return fifty bajillion results, that's what made google popular, not it's speed.

I didn't say it was just the speed. I said it was fast at getting what you wanted. Back then Google was the fastest. That would have counted for nothing if it couldn't find results of course but the speed was the edge Google had over Yahoo for instance. That was what got the geeks using it. If we're talking about number of results only NorthernLight gave many more than Google did and indexed a much larger portion of the internet. Anyone here use them?

Back then it was the fact that Google got my result quickly that influenced my decision to use it and I know I wasn't the only one.

[Ashrak]

google is not a search engine alone anymore, remembre that, its got lots of other cool stuff the a lot of people use. besides google is rich, theyll just buy the faster engine if needed.

[blackhole]

Well i've been experimenting with Cuil, and its been giving me some whacked up results. When I search for obscure terms (like say, my username), it gives me hundreds of results that are just other search engines - but whats worse is that they get put way up top, which is incredibly annoying. The results it returns are bizzare as well. Apparently I'm associated with a deviantart search for "Cold", and one of the results led to a proxy server, of all things. When i try really weird things, like ULONGULONG, google pwns Cuil into dust (57 results compared to 126). When I search for paragonx9, google returns the most accurate result - the newgrounds profile. On cuil, the newgrounds profile isn't anywhere on the first page. Perhaps the most spectacular failure for Cuil is when searching for "infinity quest." Google turns up Infinity: The Quest for Earth as the first result. Cuil returns http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/, which has Quest on the bottom of the page in a stream of useless keywords. Infinity: The Quest for Earth is... 5th.

Better then Google, my ass.

EDIT: Another amazing failure is "Ryanide." Google turns up his deviantART profile, which is the most logical first result since its got more hits then there are rabbits in australia. Cuil, of course, turns up his ModDB profile, which has no information, no pageviews, no bio, no links, NOTHING.

Yes, this is clearly a revolutionary way to search! </blatent sarcasm>

[Hazaanko]

Well i've been experimenting with Cuil, and its been giving me some whacked up results. When I search for obscure terms (like say, my username), it gives me hundreds of results that are just other search engines - but whats worse is that they get put way up top, which is incredibly annoying. The results it returns are bizzare as well. Apparently I'm associated with a deviantart search for "Cold", and one of the results led to a proxy server, of all things. When i try really weird things, like ULONGULONG, google pwns Cuil into dust (57 results compared to 126). When I search for paragonx9, google returns the most accurate result - the newgrounds profile. On cuil, the newgrounds profile isn't anywhere on the first page. Perhaps the most spectacular failure for Cuil is when searching for "infinity quest." Google turns up Infinity: The Quest for Earth as the first result. Cuil returns http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/, which has Quest on the bottom of the page in a stream of useless keywords. Infinity: The Quest for Earth is... 5th.

Better then Google, my ass.

EDIT: Another amazing failure is "Ryanide." Google turns up his deviantART profile, which is the most logical first result since its got more hits then there are rabbits in australia. Cuil, of course, turns up his ModDB profile, which has no information, no pageviews, no bio, no links, NOTHING.

Yes, this is clearly a revolutionary way to search! </blatent sarcasm>

I don't really think its -supposed- to be better than google right now.  The whole point of this is the first article I linked - it was made by the very same creator of the original google engine technology.

When google first came out, it was nothing but potential.  Small index, small servers, small staff.  Google now has a much larger index as well as pertinent results.  Anybody remember searching google when it first came out?  The results were absolute crap.  Those results became refined over time as more and more people used it.

Its unfortunate Cuil's launch was/is an absolute failure.  Basically doesn't even work.  But based on the information in that first article, I'll be watching it for sure - see where it goes.

[karajorma]

Actually I do remember when Google came out and it wasn't bad at all. It was fairly quick and it did turn up results. Yes the technology has improved a lot since then but it has for the competition too. When Google came out it was the best.

Cuil most certainly isn't. Unlike Google they didn't didn't have to rush to market in an environment where everything was new. Google came along when the Internet was in a rapid growth phase. Even if they were bad (and I don't think they were) they had the excuse that the market they were breaking into was fairly new and you had to get out there quickly. Cuil does not have the excuse. They've positioned themselves as Google-beaters. They shouldn't have come out until they were. Maybe one day they will be but right now they should yank it, fix the problems and then try again cause all they're doing by claiming that they are a Google-beater and then failing on every single level is making themselves look like a bunch of bull****ters.