[Androgeos Exeunt]

When you hit them continuously they get pushed out of range of missiles, then the Morning Star itself... thus making me consider the morning star useless

That's because you're just hitting them randomly as if the Morning Star were a normal laser. You're supposed to knock them around when they're going in a different direction (ie. not directly toward you, flying towards an escort for example) and them smack them with a missile. This stops them from doing damage to your escort and also blows them up if the missile does enough damage.

But that's a rather fiddly operation, so it's usually a better idea to just blow 'em up with a Kayser-Maxim combo, but note that the Morning Star isn't as useless as the Lamprey.

Agreed. The Lamprey's a piece of junk. Even the Akheton SDG or Circe is slightly better.

[Stormkeeper]

Lamprey is the leech weapon, right?

[colecampbell666]

Yup. I have never used it.

[james777]

The Lamprey looks good but is crap.

[Stormkeeper]

Looks good on paper, but sucks in combat.

[Droid803]

Well, its only because the AI isn't effected by it.

[Snail]

Well, its only because the AI isn't effected by it.

Even in multi-player, harassing someone with the Lamprey is bound to get someone to pop up behind you and **** you up with Kaysers.

[bfobar]

Give the lamprey a 3000 meter range and the additional effect of making ships comscramble so they can't get lock or a targeting reticle, and maybe I'll try it out again. As it stands: junk.

[Snail]

Give the lamprey a 3000 meter range and the additional effect of making ships comscramble so they can't get lock or a targeting reticle, and maybe I'll try it out again. As it stands: junk.

Give the Lamprey twice as much damage as the Shivan Super Laser and it'll be a decent weapon.

[Droid803]

We don't need to spear juggernauts! (but yes, that proves a good point).

[Solatar]

I used the Leech in the original Silent Threat for about five minutes. It's a cool concept but if a dogfight with AI is lasting long enough that you sucking their afterburners dry (slowly) makes a difference, you haven't killed them quickly enough.

I can't remember, do the Leech/Lamprey weapons suck shield energy?

[Androgeos Exeunt]

They don't seem to. All I know is that the Leech Cannon was at least useful as a Banshee replacement. The Lamprey, on the other hand, isn't. I've never used it and I never will.

[Snail]

They don't seem to. All I know is that the Leech Cannon was at least useful as a Banshee replacement. The Lamprey, on the other hand, isn't. I've never used it and I never will.

What makes the Leech Cannon useful? Shield damage?

[Androgeos Exeunt]

I have no idea. It just seems to work as well as the Banshee, although I prefer the latter.

[Mars]

The S-breaker (and Circe) were good weapons. I especially like it on the Clash of Titans II, with a Erinyes with Prometheus S and Circe, you can wipe out all those nasty bombers typically... though the Seraphim are a challenge.

[Topgun]

the leech drains weapon and aburner energy, but only against human players.

[Excalibur]

Fight an Erinyes wing or just one fighter armed with with Morning Stars and you'll know all about it - you won't get within range and you'll always be pointed away from your target. As for the Lamprey, it drains your energy reserves while being as effective as the training laser (not the targeting laser).

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Targeting Laser doesn't seem to work. I tried using it yesterday in PI, but nothing happened.

I've never liked the S-Breaker for the same reasons why I dislike the Circe. The shield destroying feature is very nice, but it doesn't do any hull damage.

[Droid803]

"Targeting Laser" is for subspace missiles...though you have to make the TBL yourself.

[Snail]

Yeah, the Targeting Laser was originally for "summoning" spells. It summons a Level 3 Missile Beast with Armor of God and +3 Whoop-ass.