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Offline Eloking

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New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
Hello everyone

First, a little introduction (Skip this paragraph is you wanna go to the point). I've always been a big fan of space sims (The old game X-wing is still my personal favorite). Saddly, I only got my own computer 3 years ago (I upgraded since that time) and I completly missed Freespace 2. I've played Freelancer, X² and X³ and some other space RTS since that time and now I kinda fell that it's the time for me to try "the" space sim game everyone is talking about.

That's where I would like some help. Of course I've already read some of the tutorials available but to have the best experience possible, I will still like someone to guide me via this thread or by MSN ([email protected])

Here's the spect of my actual computer :

Vista SP1
Widescreen 21''
GeForce 9600 GT

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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: New to FreeSpace universe, need help to set things up!
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New to Freelancer universe, need help to set things up!
:wtf: I do hope that was a typo.

Srsly, though. You'll get started if you run Turey's Installer. If you are not afraid of massive amounts of contents (over 3 gigs) and long download times, just select everything with the Installer and leave it running. If you want to spare bandwidth/time, download the retail files, the FSO files, the FSPort files and possibly the MediaVPs.

Read through the stickied threads, since they answer all the most common questions. Questions such as "OpenAL32.dll not found, what to do?" and "Invisible asteroids, what to do?".

Also, if problems arise, we'll want more specs. CPU-Z and GPU-Z are excellent tools regarding it (links in my signature).
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14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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Offline Eloking

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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
There, fixed. And it indeed was a big typo (it's starting to be pretty late here, getting sleepy).

Yeah I already started the FreeSpaceOpenInstaller a while before I made my tread but, after I saw the "tons" of sticky, different available mods and problem with widescreen and other things I wanted the help of someone used to those problem and different setup. I don't think I'll have the patience to deal with the problem I will probably have.

 

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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
(S)AAAAAAA!

:welcomered:

The Launcher should have options to set the display resolution for the game. Choose the one that you think is appropriate.

If you're using Vista, I'm assuming that you have a high-end computer, in this case, try using 1024 x 768 x 32.

I do not know of any widescreen problems. I use a MacBook to run FreeSpace 2 on 1024 x 768, and everything looks fine, albeit with a little black border at the sides, which is the trademark problem of running something that has a 4:3 aspect ratio on a monitor with 16:9 aspect ratio. On a Mac, using widescreen resolutions stretches the display out, making the game look ugly.
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Re: New to FreeSpace universe, need help to set things up!
As far as I know, the widescreen fix has been committed and is included in any half-new 3.6.10 builds (including the one linked in my signature). Of course, the HUD and interface art remain stretched, but at least the wandering suns and such are a thing of the past.

I don't think I'll have the patience to deal with the problem I will probably have.
Patience is a virtue. And it is occasionally needed with FreeSpace. If you don't have it, I'd recommend acquiring some. The patience of certain people around here can and will be tested whenever someone asks about an issue that has been clearly addressed in a sticky named "Read this first" or the likes. That, and the forums have a handy and working search function that will give proper answers with high likelyhoods as long as the issue is typed into the search field with a few descriptive words and without typos.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
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Offline Androgeos Exeunt

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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
I agree. The shortcut, it seems, is to use Turey's Installer, but because the first version of the installer messed up my installation of FreeSpace 2 TWICE, I now do things manually, which takes up more time, but at least I know what's going on.

I also tend to stray away from HEADZ (trunk builds). :blah:
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Offline Eloking

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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
Phew, I was finally able to make the game work. I had the OpenAL problem and the sticky didn't help at all (he send a link to creative website). I highly suggest that this link is added in the sticky : OpenAL for Windows users

If there's some mod that you would suggest for a first-time player I will gladly hear them.


 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
Phew, I was finally able to make the game work. I had the OpenAL problem and the sticky didn't help at all (he send a link to creative website).
Hmm. That's new. OpenAL.org used to be a working site, with download links behind a few logical clicks.

If there's some mod that you would suggest for a first-time player I will gladly hear them.
For the sake of canon storyline, play FSPort, (and maybe Silent Threat,) followed by the FS2 main campaign. After that... well, there's a ton o' good campaigns. Blue Planet, Derelict and Transcend would pop up to my mind immediately.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
Colonel Dekker would probably recommend the Just Another Day (JAD) trilogy and Deus Ex Machina (DEM).

If you don't mind playing outdated stuff, try Inferno Release 1 (INFR1) after you've played the main FreeSpace 2 campaign and the FreeSpace POrt (FSPort). If you want to play as a Shivan, use FRED2 or try Flaming_Sword's Shivans! v0.2 mod.

...and for some very tough missions, try Inferno: Alliance (INFA), or, as Lobo recommends, Blue Planet (BP).
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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
Phew, I was finally able to make the game work. I had the OpenAL problem and the sticky didn't help at all (he send a link to creative website).
Hmm. That's new. OpenAL.org used to be a working site, with download links behind a few logical clicks.

If there's some mod that you would suggest for a first-time player I will gladly hear them.
For the sake of canon storyline, play FSPort, (and maybe Silent Threat,) followed by the FS2 main campaign. After that... well, there's a ton o' good campaigns. Blue Planet, Derelict and Transcend would pop up to my mind immediately.

What he said. Play the FSPort since that is FS1 converted to this happy new game engine . Silent threat was origionally an expansion pack for FS1. Then play FS2.

Then you can branch out into all of the user made campaigns, but worry about that later.

 

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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
Colonel Colonol Dekker would probably recommend the Just Another Day (JAD) trilogy and Deus Ex Machina (DEM).

If you don't mind playing outdated stuff, try Inferno Release 1 (INFR1) Second Great War Part 2 after you've played the main FreeSpace 2 campaign and the FreeSpace POrt (FSPort). If you want to play as a Shivan, use FRED2 or try Flaming_Sword's Shivans! v0.2 mod.

...and for some very tough missions, try Inferno: Alliance (INFA), or, as Lobo recommends, Blue Planet (BP) Procyon Insurgency.
Fixed. And agreed on the JAD trilogy and DEM.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
Are you like dedicating your life to flaming Inferno?

 

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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
Are you like dedicating your life to flaming Inferno?

:lol:

Inferno Release 1 was very well done for its time. Blue Planet is a bit slow on my Mac, but at least I know what's going on.

There is only one word to describe The Procyon Insurgency, and that is "messy".

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The dogfights take place IN BETWEEN beam fire, for Khonsu's sake!
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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
There is only one word to describe The Procyon Insurgency, and that is "messy".
I, for one, enjoyed PI more than I enjoyed BP (though it was very close, they're really good campaigns).

 

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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
There is only one word to describe The Procyon Insurgency, and that is "messy".
I, for one, enjoyed PI more than I enjoyed BP (though it was very close, they're really good campaigns).

But PI is SO difficult, especially if you don't refer to the walkthrough!
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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
But PI is SO difficult, especially if you don't refer to the walkthrough!
Yeah, it was challenging, but that was one of the good points of the campaign (for me, anyway). The difficulty made playing on Medium really more of a challenge, rather than on most campaigns where you fight off a few crappy Aeshmas and then go home. Also, there was enough gameplay to keep me occupied in between the plot events, and the plot events came frequently enough to make sure that the gameplay didn't get monotonous. It might be the pace at which I play or something, but I found PI an excellent campaign, making something different from some other campaigns. For example, there were no Shivans, and the bad guys weren't really bad guys... At points I would have liked to defect to the PCA. BP was good too, but I found the Shivans a bit of a monotonous enemy (though the ending bit with the Vishnans and the Shivans was great) and BP introduced no very few enemy ships, which made me sad.

 

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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
"messy" was a compliment. If dogfights aren't messy, they're catfights. :p

I've played up to Mission 14 of The Procyon Insurgency just now before it crashed on Mission 15, and I must admit that it probably is well worthy to have events in it mentioned as canon (although it won't be).

How shall I put this...Blue Planet does justice to FreeSpace 2 by having challenging missions. PI does justice to FreeSpace 2 by making almost every single battle a messy one.
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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
How shall I put this...Blue Planet does justice to FreeSpace 2 by having challenging missions. PI does justice to FreeSpace 2 by making almost every single battle a messy one.
Blue Planet's storyline and atmosphere was better than its mission design and tabling, IMO.

 

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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
I agree. Prior to Blue Planet, the only missions that make me feel like I'm actually in the game itself are stealth missions. :)
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Re: New to Freespace universe, need help to set things up!
What about Transcend? Or was that more like being in a cinema watching a horror movie?