[[DW]-Hunter]

I was watching a TV show earlier on fossil fuel, and it was talking about what messures the oil industry is taking about the oil crisis. It said that the middle east was about 30-40% left in supply. It said Conoco Philips and Shell are setting up in Siberia on what is the largest oil supply descovered so far, but the problem is that it is contaminated by sand, so they are trying to develop a efficient method of filtering out the sand.

I talked to my father about this, who use to work for an oil refinery and he said that people are finding new suppies all the time, its just a matter of getting it to the surface and transporting them to refineries. I certainly hope that Conoco Philips and Shell get the oil flowing soon from siberia, because these gas prices are really burning a hole in my wallet.

[eliex]

Hopefully the research of "water" petrol finally makes a working breakthrough before I am 13 . . .

[[DW]-Hunter]

The problem with the fuel cell is that the fuel (hydrogen) costs 2-3 times more then oil based fuels per mile. So although Fuel cell technology IS availble for people to buy, (Honda FCX Clarity) there very few fueling stations out there for fuel cell cars, and its much more expensive to use. But the good part about it is that the only exhaust it has is water, and if the power went out at your house, you could plug your house (and your whole block) into your Honda and have power again, and because it produces so much power, you could put in a much more powerful stereo and not need a capasitor... ever.

[eliex]

I agree absolutely.
However, when one day  the Save Planet Earth Organizations all over the world get together and start stopping the production of the petrol we use now, it's really either ethanol or hydrogen isn't it?

[Spicious]

It said that the middle east was about 30-40% left in supply.

Sounds like dwindling to me.

People are finding new supplies all the time; they're just not big or easy. Oil prices are never going to significantly drop. Demand is going up, supply is not.

[Ashrak]

wonder if anyones gonna bother making a bicycle that can go 100 KM ph

so i can sell my car

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Water cars? Hmm...

Jame May, Top Gear presenter, did a review of General Motors' Hy-Wire some years back. Take a look, and don't worry about Jeremy Clarkson describing the Mazda RX-8 at the outset.

[[DW]-Hunter]

It said that the middle east was about 30-40% left in supply.

Sounds like dwindling to me.

You obviously didnt read the next sentence did you?

It said Conoco Philips and Shell are setting up in Siberia on what is the largest oil supply descovered so far.

Its bigger then the middle east's supply ever was.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Really? That's good news then.

[Spicious]

You may wish to lookup the word dwindle. You may also want to consider not wasting the still quite limited oil supplies as petrol. And some source about this might be nice.

[SF-Junky]

In the end it doesn't matter wether the world's supplies of fossil fuel last another 20 or another 200 years. If we don't want future generations to live on a second Venus we must stop producing greenhous gases at all costs! And that will only be possible by getting rid of fossil fuel as soon as possible. Fuel cells aren't much of a solution there as well, since water vapor is still a greenhouse gas. Electric cars would be a much better answer.

[Nuke]

i think they should centralize energy production and transmit it over the power grid, then we can use lithium ion battery cars, prototypes have good figures, a range of 300 miles, and sports car performance. this also means beefing up the grid, more nuke reactors and hydro plants, make power cheaper by reducing the overhead and loss of physical distribution. any major car factory could put out a general purpose battery car in less than a year if they wanted to. and most people would buy it.

[Grizzly]

The problem still is that Fossil Fuel is... fossilic, which takes millions of years to form. As we burn much more then the earth can form, it will run out one day (or we all get nuked before it happens).

[Kosh]

I don't care if we have 10 or 100 years left, we need to get off of fossil fuels, the sooner the better. We will be much happier when we do, and the oil imports wont cause such enormous trade deficits and energy insecurity for the US.

I talked to my father about this, who use to work for an oil refinery and he said that people are finding new suppies all the time, its just a matter of getting it to the surface and transporting them to refineries. I certainly hope that Conoco Philips and Shell get the oil flowing soon from siberia, because these gas prices are really burning a hole in my wallet.

Yes, but are those new finds enough to make up for lost production? Most of the non-OPEC oil countries (including Russia) have dwindling production. Just look at Mexico, their production is collapsing at an alarming rate.

i think they should centralize energy production and transmit it over the power grid, then we can use lithium ion battery cars, prototypes have good figures, a range of 300 miles, and sports car performance. this also means beefing up the grid, more nuke reactors and hydro plants, make power cheaper by reducing the overhead and loss of physical distribution. any major car factory could put out a general purpose battery car in less than a year if they wanted to. and most people would buy it.

Indeed this would reduce a lot of oil consumption, but what about our diesel powered heavy machinery (such as semi trucks, earth movers, etc)?

[Black Wolf]

Oil should really be used for plastics, and carbon fibre and all that other good stuff. Not being burned unneccesarily.

That said, I'll not be ditching my car anytime soon.

[Kosh]

Oil should really be used for plastics, and carbon fibre and all that other good stuff. Not being burned unneccesarily.

Spot on.

That said, I'll not be ditching my car anytime soon.

At least I'm not a hypocrite, I don't have a car.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

At least I'm not a hypocrite, I don't have a car.

I don't have a car either, and I like using my feet and taking public transport.

[Rick James]

The problem with the current fuel situation is that OPEC are being just a bunch of impossible morons and not allowing for future development. If we could just get more oil flowing, then we wouldn't be burning a hole in our wallet every time we go to the pumps.

[Mars]

Do we have a working replacement for petroleum burning jet engines yet?

[Nuke]

jet engines burn karosene, which can be distilled from coal. if we run out of oil there is still an alternate source for jet fuel.