[BloodEagle]

Uh-oh. Planet Earth is now going down everywhere if there is a WWIII.

Human population count preWW3: 6 billion.
Human Pop. Count postWW3       : 700

     

Just hope it's me and 699 good looking babes. 

  PEDOPHILE!!! 

[Hellstryker]

Theres no i in "babes" Perverted, but hes not a pedo

[Al Tarket]

anyhow... if i was the polish leader i would ignore the statement and see what russia does, if they nuke poland, it's their problem, however every single country who is against russia and including nato for russia nuking innocent civvies just because of some american defense, isn't worth nuking and mass genocide will be on Russia's hands. russia will be attacked from many sides in a war they can not win not matter how much land they have, unless they are all bark but no bite.

besides, russia should not be meddling in internal affairs of another country.

look at it like this, if many nukes explode on the planet, russia would not be able to live longer then 30-50 years before they die out because of a nuclear winter and nuclear fall out. so i do not think they are that stupid.

[karajorma]

As I said, they don't consider it an internal affair though. These missiles have the capability to shoot down Russian missiles. It's like saying Russia shouldn't interfere with internal affairs if Poland decided to station all of their tanks on the Russian border.

Besides. read my earlier post if you think this actually means "You station the missiles and we'll nuke you immediately"

[Snail]

This is going to be epic! WWIII for real? Sweet.

Of course, it's not for real.

[Al Tarket]

i dont think russia has the stomach to launch a nuke at poland, a dangerous game they put themselves in, so what a country can shoot a few nukes out of the sky, big deal.

i do not see why russia feels threatened by this, it's not like russia to just launch a nuke or some sort of icbm which they have never done, and poland has no reason to launch a missiles unless russia launches their stock. so which one comes first, the fire or the missile?

[Snail]

I think Russia's just making threats, nothing more. If they are actually planning something (or if indeed the Americans are planning something), both countries are screwed. And so are we.

[ShadowGorrath]

Russia's primary defence are missiles. By placing those anti-missile things in Poland, you neutralise Russia's main defence. I don't think you'd want something like that done to your country, right?

[Snail]

Russia's primary defence are missiles. By placing those anti-missile things in Poland, you neutralise Russia's main defence. I don't think you'd want something like that done to your country, right?

It's really the same story as Cuba, ain't it?

[karajorma]

With a fair bit of Able Archer 33 thrown in. In particular the Soviet response to SDI.

[peterv]

Russia's primary defence are missiles.

I think it's strategic nuklear submarines, just like U.S.A.'s.

[TrashMan]

As I said, they don't consider it an internal affair though. These missiles have the capability to shoot down Russian missiles. It's like saying Russia shouldn't interfere with internal affairs if Poland decided to station all of their tanks on the Russian border.

True, but those thanks are still inside Polands borders, right? It's withing every nations right to move troops round it's country however it pleases.
Now, if the border was crossed - that would be different.

Yes, interceptor missiles affect Russias offensive potential, but not by much (Russia has untold thousands of nukes).
There are offensive and defensive weapons, and there is a clear distinction between them - a missile who's only purpose it to shoot down missiles and protect and cannot be used to kill and a missile who's only purpose is to create as big a damage as possible with thousands of dead - again, a big difference.

This is speaking from a purely philospohical view. Political struggels and hunt for power dillute that difference.

[castor]

Bah! In case of a nukewar is only nice to get the packet straight into the kitchen.

[Al Tarket]

Russia's primary defence are missiles. By placing those anti-missile things in Poland, you neutralise Russia's main defence. I don't think you'd want something like that done to your country, right?

thats a null point because russia has many nukes, these missile defenses can not keep out all these missiles, which puts the question out of the window. don't mis underestimate anyone, because you do that you invite problems. i can think of many situations where someone has mis underestimated someone else and suffered as a consequence.

[Snail]

But do you really think Russia would fire its entire nuclear arsenal at America?

[Al Tarket]

thats the bottom line isn't it. will ww3 happen or wont it happen, everyone will be asking themselves that. to ask me about it, my guess is as good as yours until russia reacts.

[TopAce]

But do you really think Russia would fire its entire nuclear arsenal at America?

If they didn't do that during the Cold Wars, they won't do that now.

[Al Tarket]

if you say so topace. both america and russia have the nukes and they will either be destroyed or used. one way or the other the nukes will be gone soon.

[Hellstryker]

That I doubt. It's always good to have some nukes lying around for when the shivans come...  FS referances aside though, we're not going to get rid of our nuclear arsenal unless we first drop one and say "holy **** guys, this is ****ed up, we've got to stop this" I must also note a funny point Nuke made to me on AIM... Nukes need upkeep. You can't have them laying around for 50 years and expect them to work. It's entirely possible we'll fire our nuclear arsenal (and russia theirs) and nothing will happen  . Also, has anyone noticed the date for the article was august 17th, when it was posted on the 16th? 

[Mika]

I don't have a clear opinion of basing missiles to Poland, but besides that:

True, but those thanks are still inside Polands borders, right? It's withing every nations right to move troops round it's country however it pleases.

That's pretty idealistic. In reality, you cannot do that without consequences.

Mika